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# The **Permanent [Game] Noob** & **The Autistic Alpha**

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Two of the most prevailing archetypes of men that are struggling in the manosphere:

**Permanent [Game] Noob**: struggles to learn game [or RP] no matter how much reading he does, how many questions he asks, how much support and coaching he receives, and what he tries out in the field.

**Autistic Alpha**: manages to successfully learn game through narrow and mechanical [***rote learning***](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rote_learning) and application, but fails to successfully manage or maintain any of his relationships thereafter due to lack of social calibration.

(I don't know who, if anyone, ever coined the term *Autistic Alpha*, but I saw @redpillpusher use [it here](https://www.forums.red/p/asktrp/322023/dread_is_always_applied_but_she_still_left/7834305) and couldn't find it anywhere else).

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While somewhat different in levels of field success and ability to learn, *BOTH* archetypes of men **struggle from the same underlying problem(s), which is primarily poor social understanding**: poor understanding of social norms and social skills, not reading the room, not having an interesting social life, not understanding social contract or basic concepts such as reciprocity between them and other people.

The common reason both kinds of men have a foundational lack of social skills and social experience is from having a life trajectory of no or little to no friends to suddenly finding PUA/game/seduction or TRP and trying to game like Chads from a place of a fragile social foundation.

***These are usually guys that have been fairly lonely most of their lives prior to discovering manopshere content and skip numerous requisite steps to actually understanding anything they learn in game and manosphere.***

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# What Differentiates Them?

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**The Permanent Noob** is just that, a guy perpetually stuck on tutorial island for game and RP, even with dozens of guys helping and coaching him on his dozens (if not hundreds) of posts and with a world of information and guides at his fingertips to use even half-correctly, the *Permanent Noob* has the perfect storm of misconceptions and misunderstandings preventing him getting anywhere at all, or at least anywhere faster than 2 miles an hour for progress.

**The Autistic Alpha** on the other hand, manages to succeed at game, but primarily through rote learning and rote application of game and *NOT* through a genuine understanding of the broader social dynamics that people operate on. He learns what works (mostly on easy enough and broken, horny sluts that will typically respond to copy and paste "asshole" game) without actually understanding why it works. The *Autistic Alpha* is usually the kind of guy that gets told that he ***"swallowed The Red Pill on an empty stomach"*** because he carries PUA rote learning into every facet of his social and relationship life.

\*From the Wikipedia entry on *rote learning* in the second subsection "Versus critical thinking" [**emphasis mine**]:

>\***By definition, *rote learning eschews comprehension*, so by itself it is an ineffective tool in mastering any complex subject at an advanced level.** For instance, one illustration of rote learning can be observed in preparing quickly for exams, a technique which may be colloquially referred to as "cramming".

**The main difference separating the two** is that the *Permanent Noob* has several, if not dozens, of misconceptions (be it game or just social knowledge) that actively work against even rote learning game, even when it is spelled out in plain English, whereas the *Autistic Alpha* is capable of digesting game concepts as though they are facts about trains. The *Autistic Alpha* also tends to have less empathy and investment in his sets as well as more capacity for non-personal and unemotional self-reflection of his failures, which is more conductive to rapid trial and error without becoming discouraged.

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# Why Lack of Social Foundation Hurts Both

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As mentioned at the top, both of these archetypes suffer from a weak foundation of social skills. Most of them went from being relatively lonely to finding game and RP.

**Game, and by extension sexual relations, at their core, are fundamentally derivative products of social dynamics (albeit mixed with sexual tension and sexual strategy).**

*The Permanent Game Noob* and *Autistic Alpha* missed out on a lot of the social skills they would have developed if they had grown up with a lot of (real) friends. When you have real friends and consistent social experiences growing up you learn about basic:

- Turn-taking (talking, sharing, reciprocity)

- Cue-reading (boredom, interest, excitement, anxiety, attentiveness)

- Reactions to you (to the things you do and say, so you can calibrate)

- Reactions to others (how others make you feel helps you learn how to act)

- [Mirroring](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirroring) (learning what to do based on others behavior)

- Planning (logistics, spur-of-the-moment hangouts, venue-hopping)

- Situational Awareness (the effect of different scenarios on people's behavior)

- Empathy (what others are feeling and how to respond to their situations)

- Eliminating Bad Habits (friends help you realize what you should NOT do socially)

- Humor/Banter (friends help you learn what humor works and good boundaries for banter)

***The Permanent Game Noob loses at the starting line:*** if he were to understand social dynamics much better, it would clear up many, if not almost all, of his game misconceptions and he would be able to understand where game fits into socializing, how to suggest a girl go somewhere with you at an acceptable pace, etc.

***The Autistic Alpha loses at the finish line:*** he gets the lays, gets the results, but fails to keep women in his orbit because he has no social life, character development, or nuance to maintain a reciprocal human relationship with another person for more than a few weeks (or limited months if he gets that far).

**Both guys** continue to do behaviors and other social snafus that end up ultimately killing all of their sets or relationships, and thus one of the only real solutions to their problem(s) is to fix their broken and under-developed social foundations.

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# How To Fix It

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If the *Permanent Game Noob* or *Autistic Alpha* applies to you or a guy you know, the best way to fix it is to **STOP** trying to digest more game or RP. **More game and more RP content will ONLY *exacerbate* the problem**.

The reason you KEEP running into the problems you have with game or relationships is because you lack a lot of the social foundation that is required to integrate sexual dynamics into your life with women. By having a history or broad experience of different friendships (and not just with some other loner or two you know who is in the same boat), you actually gain a lot of the requisite skills that game and sexual dynamics are directly downstream from.

**You cannot build a house that stands up without a foundation. Even if you somehow manage to get the house up (looking at you *Autistic Alphas*), it will collapse shortly after adding another floor to the house (i.e. a FWB/relationship).**

You need a strong social foundation to be a Chad or to have meaningful and lasting social experiences with people (relationships, even just sexual ones, too). You CANNOT skip becoming a socially calibrated individual in your Red Pill journey. If this applies to you and you're a guy who found TRP while lonely and without much a history of friends, and still don't have real IRL friends, get on it ASAP:

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- Find clubs (the hobby kind not the nightclub kind)

- Join groups

- Take group classes

- Join sports teams (coed, intramural, school)

- Socialize with people more with the intent to make friends (not lays)

- Strike up more small talk with people

**Whatever you do, do not skip making friends and building that strong social foundation, having these skills will make everything else on your journey far easier.**

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To make friends (if you don't know how): be amicable, try to find common interests, screen for people with common values or similar backgrounds, have something of value to offer them (your skills, humor, etc.) and try to go from there.

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The [Dicarlo Escalation Ladder](https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/hlmra/dicarlo_escalation_ladder_concise_and_emphasized/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=usertext&utm_name=FereallyRed&utm_content=t3_cbj13p) is a famous staple read. Dropping homeage to it here for influencing me.

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***The VRXXX escalation strategy differs in that the goal is to get them as horny and in need of a dick as humanly possible through the most natural possible escalation so that they will pursue sex themselves or affirmatively just accept sex at peak sexual tension***

This is what personally works for me and I wouldn't do it any other way. Your mileage may vary, or you may have a better way, but at any rate, this is what works for me in virtually completely avoiding ASD and LMR

*Note: this guide is geared towards escalation after the pull, not the game or escalation before pulling*

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### *Detailed post, TL;DR in-post link below*

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# [»VRXXX TL;DR GUIDE«](https://www.forums.red/p/theredpill/320875/vrxxx_escalation_guide/7817755)

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### Abbreviations used:

*R&R = rinse and repeat*

*ASD = anti-slut defense*

*LMR = last-minute resistance*

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## Pre-pull/isolation game

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I'm going to skip the "game/pull" part of this because there are a million posts on game/pull already (including Dicarlo)

Assume in this guide that you have already pulled the chick to some place you can comfortably escalate for a lay and that she isn't rejecting the kissing/makeout while isolated at the lay location

**While this post isn't about pre-pull game, do NOT neglect it. It is extremely important to mentally and emotionally stimulate a woman before pulling, so that when she is in private with you she is already excited at the possibility of sex**

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## Post caveat/disclaimer

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If a girl is already desperate to fuck you, and actively trying to, just let her. Obviously don't follow this guide if a woman is basically quickly trying to fuck you as is

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## Post forenote

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*Generally stay on each step of the escalation for a half-minute to two minutes so she can adjust to the current stage of escalation before moving further. It helps solidify progression on a first lay with a chick*

*The most obvious sign you can progress at any step of this escalatory progression is if she squirms, moans often, breathes noticeably harder, or escalates you or herself on her own, but its not a pre-requiste, per se*

*Also, if you suddenly get resistance, go back to the previous part of escalating till she relaxes and/or gets turned on more (evident by bodily reactions/ breathing harder/ moaning)*

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# **THE POST (VRXXX GUIDE)**

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# The atmosphere

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You might be reading this and thinking:

*"Fuck, Vermillion.. Atmosphere? Really??"*

Yes. I am serious.

If it's at her place who cares, that's her responsibility and up to her whether she alters the room's atmosphere.

*However, if you fuck enough chicks at their place, you will pick up very quickly that most will go to lengths to control atmosphere a lot of the time to enhance their comfort and enjoyability of possibly fucking a guy, so learn from them*

It is easier for a woman to fuck and escalate in a more dimly-lit and cleaner, low-distraction room than a bright, messy one. It does matter a lot of the time

As a matter of practice try to keep your own room clean with flexible lighting options. It helps

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# Foreplay & why

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So many of you guys ignore foreplay to an extent that is shocking. I get it, you want d1¢k in va-jay but don't cheap out on foreplay unless she's trying to defile you

Lack of natural progression towards sex is why so many of you guys get smacked by LMR and ASD. Don't shoot yourselves in the dick after pulling, it's retarded to seppuku your own dick by skipping strategic foreplay

***Men and women are NOT the same. Men are visual; women are emotional and imaginative, and need mental channels unlocked for zero ASD and zero LMR***

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## Natural progression defined

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She still wants to feel that it "just happened" moment.

**"It just happened"** = that the escalation felt completely natural and irresistible instead of requested or suggested like she's a hoe or that it was planned

**"One thing led to another"** as if she didn't actually make the decisions herself to get ravaged, it was just incremental turns of events that absolve her of responsibility without being forced upon either

***Make it psychologically, emotionally, and physically easier for her to fuck you with natural progression***

The female tendency for requiring/ preferring foreplay and mental stimulation for sex is your friend, not your enemy, use it to obliterate ASD and LMR

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# First kiss of the lay

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*Note: The first kiss you do the first time you intend to fuck in isolation. Not referring to any previous kissing that did not have the potential for sex on the spot)*

Go in for the kiss intended to lead to the lay, slowly, yet firmly but not too hard, and be sure to either hold the side of her face before or after initiating a solid kiss (all fingers behind the ear, but thumb in front of the ear) this kind of kiss will drive a woman crazy. It's intimate, and it's not sloppy nor inexperienced.

It sets up suspense and ramps her mind and emotions up

Pulling back for a few seconds while your foreheads are still touching can be an incredibly powerful tension/desire builder as well before the make-out.

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# Make out and caress

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## Making out

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Once you hit the make out, keep coming back to it, it's extremely effective at maintaining tension and amplifying their arousal and they like good kissing

***The makeout is also the ultimate staple gateway to escalating further. Women will generally want to keep moving forward during each step of escalation if they are being consistently kissed or stimulated at all times***

Make sure most of your kisses are controlled and not sporadic nor hectically out of control nor too fast, but vary the speed to keep her thinking.

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## Caressing

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**Let your hands and fingers roam at this point: back, shoulders, arms, legs, ass. They shouldn't really stop you after solid making out**

Occasionally pull her in by placing your free hand on her back and the other hand on the back of her head. Pause passionately when you have a good intimate squeeze (like a sexualized hug).

An effective closing before the next step is to take both hands behind her ears and pull her mouth away just a couple inches from yours while your foreheads are still touching. Makes your kiss seem close and far away at the same time and builds higher tension

Finish the step by kissing her mouth again or skip to the next step

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## Neck and shoulders

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### Neck

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Start kissing down from her mouth to the base of her neck and back up. At some point of repeating this, focus on the base of her neck. Just keep looking for it with kisses until she reacts, they almost always do. Memorize her "neck spot" for later. stop where she moans or gasps the most

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### Shoulders

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The shoulders part has to do with clothing choice. If it's a straight up tee-shirt this step needs some accomodation, but otherwise doesn't

If straps or loose flexible fabric, move from the sweet spot on the base of her neck to a strap of her bra/dress and movie it aside and kiss where the strap used to be. The rest of the shoulder doesn't matter too much but just go to the end of the shoulder bone. It moreso matters where the strap used to be

R&R on the second shoulder

Pulling their bra straps forward into a deep kiss is pretty powerful for them too

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*If she has a tee shirt, etc. just move the fabric as far over slightly without coming close to over-stretching the fabric*

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# Testing her escalation interest

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### Flip her on top of you so that she straddles you while you lay on your back

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1. You can see how into it she is so far. She is the one that has to make out with you, etc.

2. You can see where and how her hands roam

3. She will more or less decide *where* to straddle you. Some will sit on your stomach, others will rest their clit straight over your dick

4. Subsequently, some girls will grind their clit on your dick as a result, and is a good gauge for sex

5. Some decide to get topless on their own in this position because their arms, back, and clothes are now unobstructed

6. Also important, this position allows you to very easily dovetail into the next part of escalating

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# Pre-undress (inside shirt)

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**This is basically a step that can simultaneously go into the previous one. Just combine her straddling you with this step**

Virtually all women at this stage will let you put your hands under their shirt. Hold off on touching her breasts here, not yet. Just roam everywhere under their shirt BUT their breasts

It shows restraint (i.e. lack of thirst) and builds suspense and anticipation for later

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# 2nd base (breasts and clit)

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## Breasts (clothed)

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**Flip her back onto her back**

Basically R&R of the shoulder strap step but on her bra cup (if she has one)

Kiss from the base of her neck's sweet spot down to whatever part of her upper breast tissue is exposed (bare)

R&R to other breast tissue

You can tug the bra cup/clothing down a bit, but refrain from exposing the nipple

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*If tee shirt, again, just move what you can down without stretching her clothes. In this case just briefly kiss down to the cup line over the shirt. No cleavage shirts are just unfortunate for escalation but this still works well enough*

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## Clit (clothed)

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Like the Dicarlo Escalation Ladder, while making out and kissing neck clothed breasts, reposition/nudge your knee/thigh into her clothed clit

**This clit action can be much sooner in the escalation, it tends to work even earlier in the escalation just because it seems incidental to the girl**

Like kissing breast tissue, they don't seem to give a shit if it's a knee instead of a hand. It's incidental even if it feels deliberate.

You can move your knee gently into it on repeat or a lot of girls will grind their clit on your thigh/knee

**It is extremely effective. They will generally get or already be very horny at this point**

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# Undressing her

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## Top

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A lot of girls won't give a shit if you've taken your shirt off at this point but if you've followed everything else here pretty well so far you can pretty much take her shirt off no problem at all at this point

**R&R flipping her over into straddling your front side**

Just start lifting her shirt and the sign they will just do it is lifting their arms straight up in the air

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## Bra

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R&R the earlier upper breast tissue kissing down to cup line and past it

Be sure to be caressing the free breast over the bra with hand/fingers while you kiss the other one

At this stage, pull both her bra straps to the side if she has them and then unclasp her bra and slide it off if she doesn't do it herself (many do)

*Most will take off their bra on their own by themselves at this point if they are turned on enough*

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# Breast foreplay

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## Topless torso

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Kiss all the way from their mouth to neck down to between her breasts. Then kiss down to her belt/panty line.

It's a low-pressure move that makes them horny

Refrain from immediately touching breasts with hands, see next step

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## Breast(s)

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**Either flip them back onto their back at this point, the previous step or keep them on top. Up to you**

*Dry hump is optional, it's not really determinant one way or the other for getting a lay, though it can give a good preview of how you would fuck her, which can be good if you know how to move*

She's topless now. Refrain from immediately touching breasts. The restraint and anticipation makes them root for you to progress further

Kiss down to below nipple line

At this point, kiss in a circle around the nipple without touching it with hands

R&R for the other breast

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## Nipple(s)

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Come back to mouth, R&R to the first breast and at the end of circle (or two circles) kiss the nipple

Give free breast hand/finger attention

R&R on the other breast. Her first breast you orally stimulated should be pretty lubricated, stimulated it with your your fingertips

**The trifecta of knee-on-clit, oral, nipple, and finger on nipple stimulation drives them *INSANE***

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# Getting her naked

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## Hand on clit (clothed)

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**Regardless of the last step positioning, she should be on her back again for this one**

Move your hand that is hand stimulating their nipple down their body. Go past the belt line and stroke their legs as far as your arm reaches. Start innocuously at first and then get closer and closer to their clothed clit

When your fingers can't get any closer, select one of the following:

*R&R till you touch clit, going back up their body/legs before touching it, or slowing down your fingers tremendously on your way to it works well. Just use whatever is right here it doesn't matter, all work here*

Gently rub over where her clit is while stimulating nipple or making out with her HARD for a minute

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## Pants off

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We're approaching a solid GG lay here if done well.

Go back to nipples (or makeout) at this point while undoing her belt. Take pants/shorts off. Leave panties

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## Underwear off

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Caress her clit again with just her panties/underwear on while making out with her hard or continuing with the oral nipple stimulation for a min or or so

Either reach into her panties now for bare clit or take them off entirely.

Depending on resistance (if any) just keep stimulating and go for getting panties/ underwear off

Take panties/ underwear off

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# Sex

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If she is fine with being completely naked at this point, congrats, you probably are getting the lay hands down

Clit stimulate them about 50-75% toward orgasm with fingers while simultaneously either making out hard or nipple stimulation here

**The vast majority of the time they will ask to fuck at this point overtly or with the classic womanese: "do you have a condom?" (Which means "sex, please")**

If they haven't already asked to fuck in a minute or so of this step, just say:

"One sec" or "One moment, be right back," etc.

Get a few condoms out and leave them near her while you keep stimulating her

If she STILL hasn't tried to fuck at this point, open a condom and put it on. Put your wrapped dick near her vaginal opening and say "is this okay?"

**If "yes": insert. Sex achieved. GG**

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# Final notes

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## Talking during escalation

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Talk to a prospective lay during escalation as need be. Sometimes it can be good to make a joke at an awkward movement or ask "are you good?" if something seems off. Talking helps if it's necessary to communicate.

Don't be nervous to verbally speak during escalation if necessary. Most girls will make a few one-line quips or so on the way to sex so be prepared to answer with rather short remarks as need be, especially if she's showing some kind of reservation.

Be amicable and relaxed in anything you say to her during escalation, but don't shoot yourself in the dick with unnecessary comments

Some comments like "that feels good/you feel good" can help.

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## Women escalating themselves

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**Often times during this escalation strategy, women will just escalate themselves into sex or nudity**

As mentioned prior: proper foreplay, proper stimulation, and proper escalation are *extremely* powerful.

It is not uncommon for women to start stripping on their own or asking for sex before you've gotten too far into this strategy, if done well.

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