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4h ago WhereAreAllTheGoodMen Forum
We hyper-independent women get such a bad rap
https://streamable.com/lb2lj4 | Open Link in New WindowGuys who have (one-sided) Open LTR's: why?
Because I far outclassed the ho in social standing so my side was open, not hers....long term she eventually cheats or goes bolistic.
why can't you satisfy that need through seeing the occasional prostitute?
The amount of effort I've put into developing myself to be a "catch" or at the very least, an unregrettable one night stand means I don't have to pay with my hard earned cash.
Do you need the psychological validation of plates to feel good about yourself and maintain abundance mentality?
No, I enjoy the chase. The romance. It's the same reason I don't pay to hunt on a game farm. I enjoy the hunt itself more than the kill.
Ofc, TRP would criticize this not only because it's a shitty thing to do and that this validation seeking behavior is weak,
It's human nature to want to feel wanted. If you're making good money and want to bust a nut with no effort outside of your wallet, than lead with that. Most men can't. Including myself in relation to how much I like to bust a nut.
but especially because those shortcuts would eventually end in shitstorms of catastrophical propotions long-term and I had to find that out the hard way multiple times.
What shortcuts? Fucking girls you'd never date? I have plates a decade old. I'm a safe fuck when she's between men. She knows and I know it'll never be nothing more but it doesn't end in a shit storm because those boundaries are set in stone, by me.
being upfront about casual intentions never made much sense to me either, as them also sleeping with other guys and putting in the same minimal effort as myself would make it feel almost as transactional as going to a prostitute.
YMMV but experience is these women will try extra hard, even more the second, third and so on times they come crawling back when they couldn't secure the ring somewhere else.
Plating that way, at least to me, and especially if you already have a main girl, only makes sense if you have a very organical pipeline to replace churn and rather limited amounts of $.
Again, I enjoy the hunt. The authentic desire. I know when I'm fucking, it's because of who I am, not how deep my pocket is. Maybe that's a fragile ego, maybe it's the fact I know I'm worth more than my check book.
Hos give it away to shitty men all the time, for free...why would you pay to dick a skank down?
Read MoreGreat you are hyper independent, so you need nothing from a man apart from someone to hang out with. That sounds attractive to me. No hypergamous leeching. I would be interested. So what is the problem? Men who don't wash and exercise seem to be the complaints. Ok well I do wash and exercise as do most of my friends. There seem to be lots of men who do this, so what is the problem?
Ah yes, they are not trying hard enough to give you more than you already give yourself and you do pamper yourself don't you. I see what you really wanted was more. That's just good old hypergamy except almost no one can give you that without being a wealthy successful full time mega simp and lets face it, why would a wealthy successful man be a full time mega simp to an entitled self obsessed female?
Feminism has created women who are unlovable and incapable of wanting men.
Read MoreI don't see anything wrong with prostitutes. You know what you're getting for your money: an honest, solid, capitalistic, business transaction. Sometimes, you just don't feel like playing the game, and just want a lady for the night, no strings attached. There's nothing wrong with that.
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I was tempted to use the title "I've always wondered what it was like to date a meth tweaker".
Just listening to her mouth-sounds for two minutes, I'm so exhausted that I have to sit on the couch for a few more hours to consider her offer while I play some X-Box. ... Mom, is my Hot Pocket ready?
But if you already have those skills and an attractive partner but just in need of a little sexual variety on the side, why can't you satisfy that need through seeing the occasional prostitute?
Why are you asking us? This is a question that only you can answer for yourself.
Do you need the psychological validation of plates to feel good about yourself and maintain abundance mentality?
Do you?
When I was actively plating, I got off on being as opaque as possible in regard to commitment towards girls because I loved how much investment that would reap me and found it very validating.
Ok, so you're validation farming. That's valid, and you're honest with yourself about it.
Ofc, TRP would criticize this not only because it's a shitty thing to do
It's not a shitty thing to do. Women do it to men ALL THE TIME. You are allowed to do it. No law against it, dating is amoral, and you are entitled to do this if you wish.
It's not for me, but I accept that it's for you.
and that this validation seeking behavior is weak,
Yeah, it's needy and doesn't get you what you think it gets you. Validation is a leading indicator, an instrumental goal. People (and you) like these things because it implies they can get other things (eg sex with more women) later. But leading indicators are only that: indicators.
but especially because those shortcuts would eventually end in shitstorms of catastrophical propotions long-term and I had to find that out the hard way multiple times.
Haha right. That's the downside, and that's why most men are fairly up front when they have the abundance to afford it. Losing 50% of girls early beats half of them going mental later.
OTOH, being upfront about casual intentions never made much sense to me either,
But you're not doing casual, you are doing friends with benefits. Repeated sexual encounters. Somewhat ongoing. Casual is basically one night stands. You're doing OLTR / FWB, and that's not "casual" and shouldn't be framed as such.
Call it a fling or an affair or an ongoing thing - women respond better to framing like this.
as them also sleeping with other guys
Some will, some won't.
and putting in the same minimal effort as myself would make it feel almost as transactional as going to a prostitute.
Except it's not.
Casual is: sex sex.
Prostitute is money sex.
Relationship is commitment sex.
Of these, the casual thing is the least transactional. Both sides get sex. It's only transactional if she has sex and tries to get something (eg commitment) later.
Minimal effort is basically non transactional.
You've got some work to do here dude, to understand that all human sexual relationships are transactional - everybody gets something and everybody gives something. Everyone is fine with this if they give what they want to give and get what they want to get.
When people say "transactional sex", they usually mean your resources for her sex. Either money or commitment.
Plating that way, at least to me, and especially if you already have a main girl, only makes sense if you have a very organical pipeline to replace churn and rather limited amounts of $.
See, this is where you've got some thinking to do. You sound like you're rationalising rather than making choices. And you're a little wonky in your thinking, you've got some definitions to tighten up in your head.
Fundamentally, the odd thing in your post is this: you like validation, but you're arguing for a zero validation arrangement.
Read MoreI was just researching battery technologies and came across info about the most popular battery in Chinese cars.
LFP battery chemistry was developed in the United States, but large-scale commercialization occurred mainly in China. John Goodenough’s research group at the University of Texas at Austin identified the foundational cathode material in 1996. Goodenough and Arumugam Manthiram published key papers in 1987 and 1989, and Goodenough filed a U.S. patent in 1997. Manthiram later noted that the intellectual work was done in the United States, not China.
Commercial development faced early obstacles. The UT Austin patent did not cover China, allowing Chinese firms access to the technology. A patent dispute between UT Austin and Hydro-Québec also slowed development and led to estimated losses of $350–500 million for the university and its Canadian licensee. By the time foundational patents expired around 2022, the United States had limited licensing leverage.
U.S. automakers initially prioritized maximum vehicle range. LFP’s lower energy density was seen as a disadvantage compared with nickel- and cobalt-based chemistries. Chinese firms took a different view, valuing LFP for cost, safety, and reduced dependence on imported nickel and cobalt. BYD began LFP research in 2002 and brought the first LFP-equipped car to market in 2008. CATL and BYD invested in carbon coatings, nanoscale material engineering, and cell-to-pack architectures to address LFP’s conductivity and density limitations.
A123 Systems became the most visible U.S. example. Spun out of MIT in 2001, it was the first company to commercialize LFP batteries. It received a $249 million federal grant in 2009, went public, and opened a Michigan factory. Sales did not meet expectations, and the factory opened before sufficient demand existed. Defective batteries contributed to a Fisker recall in 2012. A123 filed for bankruptcy in October 2012, and its assets were sold to China’s Wanxiang Group in 2013. The bankruptcy became politically contentious.
China now has a large share of global battery manufacturing. It controls over 85% of capacity, with about 2,831 GWh compared with 221 GWh in the United States. LFP accounts for nearly 81% of installed battery production in China. In the U.S., LFP’s share of EV batteries was below 10% as recently as 2024. Ford and Tesla now license LFP technology from CATL and BYD. Ford’s CEO has acknowledged that the company cannot commercialize LFP technology independently.
Several factors explain the U.S. outcome: patent disputes, a near-term focus on range, and difficulty sustaining investment in manufacturing scale-up. Bob Galyen, former CTO of CATL, said the U.S. approach needed recalibration. The LFP experience also offers lessons for sodium-ion, solid-state, and other emerging chemistries. Invention alone does not ensure commercial leadership without industrial policy, patient capital, and domestic manufacturing capacity.
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COMPARISON: 4C/5C ULTRA-FAST CHARGING LFP VS HIGH-NICKEL NMC VS SODIUM-ION (NA-ION)
TECHNICAL PARAMETERS COMPARISON
ENERGY DENSITY (CELL)
- 4C/5C Ultra-Fast Charging LFP: 150-210 Wh/kg
- High-Nickel NMC (e.g., NMC 811): 240-350 Wh/kg (current); up to 280 Wh/kg for CATL's Gen-3 Kirin
- Sodium-Ion: 100-175 Wh/kg (CATL Naxtra: 175 Wh/kg)
NOMINAL VOLTAGE
- 4C/5C Ultra-Fast Charging LFP: 3.2 V per cell
- High-Nickel NMC: 3.6-3.8 V per cell
- Sodium-Ion: approx. 3.1-3.2 V per cell
CYCLE LIFE (TO 80% CAPACITY)
- 4C/5C Ultra-Fast Charging LFP: 2,000-6,000+ cycles; CATL's 3rd-gen Shenxing retains >90% after 1,000 full cycles
- High-Nickel NMC: 1,500-3,000 cycles
- Sodium-Ion: 4,000-6,000 cycles (EV-grade); CATL's commercial Na-ion pack exceeds 10,000 cycles
FAST CHARGING CAPABILITY
- 4C/5C Ultra-Fast Charging LFP: 4C-15C peak; CATL 3rd-gen Shenxing: 10% to 80% in 3 min 44 s, 10% to 98% in 6 min 27 s
- High-Nickel NMC: 4C-5C achievable (e.g., SVOLT 800V 4C PHEV, Grepow NMC 532 at 5C)
- Sodium-Ion: 4C demonstrated (BAIC prototype: full charge in approx. 11 min)
COLD WEATHER PERFORMANCE (-30 C)
- 4C/5C Ultra-Fast Charging LFP: Degraded; LFP can lose approx. 50% capacity in extreme cold
- High-Nickel NMC: Usability ends below -20 C
- Sodium-Ion: Excellent; retains >90% capacity at -40 C; delivers approx. 3x the discharge power of LFP at -30 C
SAFETY / THERMAL RUNAWAY
- 4C/5C Ultra-Fast Charging LFP: Excellent; olivine structure is thermally stable
- High-Nickel NMC: Moderate; high-nickel chemistries exhibit more severe thermal runaway, reaching surface temps >1,000 C in abuse tests
- Sodium-Ion: Excellent; lower thermal runaway risk than NMC, with mild thermal runaway behavior reported in abuse tests
CELL COST (APPROX.)
- 4C/5C Ultra-Fast Charging LFP: $50-60/kWh (China cell price)
- High-Nickel NMC: >$100/kWh
- Sodium-Ion: Targeting $19-55/kWh at cell level with scale; currently higher than LFP at approx. $40-70/kWh
KEY MATERIAL CONSTRAINTS
- 4C/5C Ultra-Fast Charging LFP: No cobalt/nickel; iron and phosphorus abundant
- High-Nickel NMC: Dependent on nickel and cobalt supply
- Sodium-Ion: No lithium, nickel, or cobalt required; uses abundant sodium
CUSTOMER-FACING TRANSLATION
DRIVING RANGE (PER CHARGE)
- 4C/5C Ultra-Fast Charging LFP: Good. Suitable for mainstream EVs (approx. 400-600 km with current pack tech).
- High-Nickel NMC: Best. Enables 1,000 km+ range with large packs (e.g., CATL's 125 kWh NMC pack).
- Sodium-Ion: Adequate. Current mass-production EVs achieve 400-600 km; covers over 50% of market needs.
CHARGING SPEED
- 4C/5C Ultra-Fast Charging LFP: Game-changing. "Full tank" experience: 10% to 80% in under 4 minutes, 10% to 98% in approx. 6.5 minutes.
- High-Nickel NMC: Fast. 4C-5C charging available, but typically not as aggressively optimized for speed as latest LFP.
- Sodium-Ion: Fast. 4C charging demonstrated; full charge in approx. 11 minutes in prototype.
PURCHASE PRICE IMPACT
- 4C/5C Ultra-Fast Charging LFP: Lower. Cheapest lithium chemistry; translates to more affordable EVs.
- High-Nickel NMC: Highest. Nickel and cobalt drive up pack cost; premiums for long-range models.
- Sodium-Ion: Potentially lowest at scale. Targeting costs below LFP as manufacturing ramps up.
WINTER DRIVING EXPERIENCE
- 4C/5C Ultra-Fast Charging LFP: Poor. Noticeable range loss and reduced power in freezing conditions; requires battery heating.
- High-Nickel NMC: Poor. Usability severely limited below -20 C; range and charging suffer.
- Sodium-Ion: Excellent. Near-normal range and power even at -30 C to -40 C; effectively eliminates winter range anxiety.
SAFETY PERCEPTION
- 4C/5C Ultra-Fast Charging LFP: Very high. No thermal runaway at normal operating temperatures; inherently stable.
- High-Nickel NMC: Lower. High-nickel cells can be more volatile in abuse scenarios; requires advanced battery management system (BMS) and cooling.
- Sodium-Ion: Very high. Lower thermal runaway risk; designed to stay smoke- and fire-free even under crushing and drilling tests.
BATTERY LIFESPAN (YEARS OF USE)
- 4C/5C Ultra-Fast Charging LFP: Very long. Typically outlasts the vehicle; >10 years in many use cases.
- High-Nickel NMC: Shorter. Replacement may be needed within 5-8 years in intensive use.
- Sodium-Ion: Very long. 10,000+ cycles means potential lifespan far exceeding vehicle life.
BEST FOR...
- 4C/5C Ultra-Fast Charging LFP: Affordable EVs where fast charging and longevity matter most; mainstream family cars.
- High-Nickel NMC: Premium, long-range EVs where maximum range per charge is the priority.
- Sodium-Ion: Cold-climate regions, entry-level EVs, and applications where cost and safety are paramount.
BOTTOM LINE FOR A CAR BUYER If you want the fastest charging and lowest price with excellent safety, 4C/5C LFP is the pragmatic choice, just accept winter range penalties. If you need maximum range and can pay a premium, high-nickel NMC delivers. If you live in a cold climate and want a safe, affordable EV with minimal winter compromise, sodium-ion is emerging as a compelling new option.
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