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The girls said they knew exactly what they were doing and were planning to “have their fun” (fun= partying, fun=sex, fun=going on spring break etc.) and would “settle down later”. I asked: when are you planning to settle down? They said: “It depends” and “probably around 27, 28” or “maybe sooner it depends”. I really put the girls on the spot. During our exchange they saw I was upset. They told me I should be happy because “nice guys finish first in the end”. I told them you cannot have your cake and eat it to. Then I was told by Kaylene (a young thin super sexy blonde with curves in all the right places (who BTW refused to date me even though we were friends and according to her roommate had sex with almost 30 guys in one semester ) she told me,

“Michael let me tell you something: not only am I going to have my cake eat it and eat it too. I’m going to have it with ice cream and sprinkles”. - Michael’s Story

Justice. Glorious retribution. Suffering the consequences of our wrongdoings, whilst basking in the glory of our righteous deeds and conquests. As men, these are all concepts and ideas that we find noble and right. We recognize and embrace that we cannot live lives completely free of all consequence. Those consequences may be physical; i.e., we don’t give liver transplants to chronic alcoholics. They may be financial; i.e., a bank robber isn’t getting a job in the financial industry anytime soon. Or, they may be social; i.e., if you have a history of behaving like an ass at parties, you may find yourself sitting home alone on Halloween or New Year’s Eve.

However, there seems to be a trend, a pattern in the comment sections of various different discussions here in the men’s locker room we call The Red Pill. It appears to stem from a sort of misunderstanding about “The Wall” from newcomers and assorted anger phasers, and that is this misappropriated idea that once our fluffy, little, acrobatic and beloved vagina operator, rider of the ever present and be-Chadded Cock Carousel hits the wall, that somehow her sexual and social lives are over, and come crashing down around her like a Syrian war zone leveled by ISIS artillery and grenades.

Well, Uncle JP is here to tell you in the best way TRP knows how, and that is with blunt force:

Newbies:

She IS going to get her way. She will ultimately suffer no meaningful retribution for her Ghosts of Sluttiness Past. Dismiss your justice porn revenge fantasies.

And they know it, too. They all know it. Gentlemen, the walking, talking episode of Sex and the City that Michael was talking to above is telling the truth, and here’s why: getting her Beta Bux is just as important to her as getting her Alpha Fux.

Some of us seem to forget that AF/BB isn’t just a catch slogan, it’s an expression of the dualistic nature of the Female Sexual Strategy. AF/BB is a “yin and the yang”. Before modern feminism destroyed the concepts of manhood, it wasn’t uncommon for a woman to successfully consolidated her AF/BB needs in one, singular man. The strong, stoic type of man who tingled her vagina, whom she respected, and whom she gladly devoted herself to in exchange for his caring providership of her and their children.

But alas, 50 years of slow feminist creep, single motherhood, the destruction of the nuclear family, and an overwhelming number of gynocentric social programs and safety nets has all but destroyed this type of man. Women know this. They pushed all of these movements just so they could be strong independent women who go to offices every day and push meaningless paper around in cubicles to make their male bosses wealthy.

So now they have created two different types of men, which we of course now classify as “AF” and “BB”. And when the time comes, she will get her Beta Bux. This is for a myriad of reasons, not the least of which is sexual thirst among the latter category. They know they will be able to starfish for thirsty men, who don’t know how good steak tastes when they’re being fed a bowl of dog food a couple of times a month.

I know it sounds logical, because leave it to a man to find the most logical conclusion to a dilemma or conundrum.

”That filthy whore sucked off the lacrosse team and gang banged the basketball team, she doesn’t deserve a good husband!”

your mind tells you.

Well, she’s gonna get one, unless her SMV literally drops to zero by way of getting morbidly obese, becoming a burn victim, or running her face through a cheese grater. Allow me to refer you to a part of /u/Rollo-Tomassi’s SMV Chart that many of us glance over:

https://rationalmale.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/smv_curve1.jpg

Notice that, for as fast as her SMV starts declining after 23, her SMV is still above a “2” as late as age 38.

And gentlemen, if you don’t think there are men out there who are thirsty, desperate, and willing to bang out a 38 year old 2 or 3, then I’ve got some land in the Florida Everglades I’d like to sell you.

So no, they will not suffer consequences or retribution. Get it out of your head sooner rather than later. No, the Widows of the Alpha Kind will not enjoy fucking their BBs, but that’s not the point. Once she has the ring on her finger, she now holds all the marbles, even if she wants to, and successfully scores, some AF on the side. Conversely, even if she becomes a fat slob who struts around in Victoria Secret sweatpants with the deliciously ironic “SEXY” written on the ass, and drives her husband to find a vagina not surrounded by a gravitational pull, she still holds all the marbles.

And quite honestly, is it any real surprise that women don’t suffer consequences for their slutty actions? Why should they? They are, after all, the Most Responsible Teenager in the House. She’s been living a consequence-free life from the time she was 5 years old and playing with toy princesses to the time she is 25 and insisting she be treated like one. And society will see to it that she isn't about to start suffering them now.

So the lesson to be learned here, gentlemen, is to ditch your revenge porn fantasies. They are no good for your psyche, and they are no good for the process of unplugging. Here at TRP, we prefer to deal in truths and realities, not delusions and fantasies.

She’s gonna get her Beta. Just be glad that now it won’t be you.

Been with a girl exclusively for 6 months. Low n-count (1 boyfriend, 1 hookup), genuinely good girl, non-manipulative, chose me over a bunch of orbiters, im her first orgasm, regular sex, doesnt make my life difficult,greate dynamic.

The issue: her ex rawdogged her and she took the pill and puked and had to deal with that shit alone. With me she won't do it raw because the pill affected her body badly last time and she doesn't want to take it again. Medically completely valid and I understand that fully and I dont want her to go through pain duh.

But I can't get past the fact that she's been more physically intimate with her ex than with me despite me being objectively higher value in every way. Classic retroactive jealousy I know.

I've decided to end it cleanly and honestly.

Question is that is this the right call or am I letting my retroactive jealousy make a decision for me that I'll regret? And for guys who've dealt with this , does it actually get better or does it follow you into every relationship regardless? I have never given a fuck when it comes to a plate but an LTR is where I start getting such feelings triggered

Also side question , is this a form of oneitis? or is getting affected by a girls past esp one that you like a completely normal thing?

Without any detailed knowledge of how your relationship was, I don’t know if what you did was the better choice.

If things were running smoothly, she was good to you outside the bedroom too, and you did vet her for a long enough time before committing (at least 6 months), I probably would not have dumped her. If she had to really earn the relationship and she is a good GF, within reason, that’s all you can reasonably hope for as a man.

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On one hand, you as a man absolutely do want to get the sexual best from a committed partner. If you weren’t able to raw dog her, but her ex could, she is in a way treating her ex better than you. This is something you are subconsciously realizing, and once you have realized it, you can’t get it out of your head easily. It’s not so much retroactive jealousy, as it is the realization that you are getting a worse deal than her ex did. She was younger, a virgin, and he rawdoggeed her. You don’t get those things no matter what.

This “calculation” in your head only enters the picture because you are committed with her. You wouldn’t give a shit if she was a club slut that you banged once and will never talk to again. And this “calculation” gets worse if you find out her ex was not as committed as you, or if he was a fat loser, or whatever. Ultimate death knell to her chances if you found out she also did anal and blew him, but wouldn’t do that with you.

(You also can’t just take her word that her ex is the one guy she has ever fucked before, as she has every incentive to “reduce” her N-count. But we leave that judgement to you, it’s your situation not ours.)

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On the other hand, getting sick from the pill is a real thing. And (assuming you really are her 2nd), is actually very good for western standards. As you get older, you are highly unlikely to find another woman with a lower N-count.

Would you rather that she actually is a girl that’s always on the pill and just raw dogs every other guy at the club? I think not. The fact that she tried the pill and isn’t always on it says that she actually does think somewhat seriously about what she does with her body.

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The thing I don’t like in this situation though is that truth was punished. Assuming she was telling the truth, you basically punished her for being honest. She would’ve been better off lying about that experience in her past, but she told the truth, and you broke up with her over it. After this experience, she is much more likely to lie to the next guy she is getting into a relationship with. Not blaming you here, you gotta look out for you. Just know that’s the future you have inadvertently contributed to.

I wish we just didn’t have this turbo slut situation in the West. I also wish what men and women wanted weren’t so often at odds with each other. But no matter what we wish, the way the universe is will not change.