This is copied from an OYS I posted on the subreddit, but I am curious of the perspective of TRP of this topic in isolation.

I have been thinking quite a bit about quality and caliber of women. I grew up quite poor; single wide trailer, no central air or heat, literal fleas and roaches, single mother working at a bar to raise us, weird traumatic shit throughout childhood, etc. Former white trash (maybe others on here can relate). Now I have a good job, live in a nice home, etc.

I have fucked and dated girls from ‘the other side’; pretty, intelligent, from decent homes, decent neighborhoods, that dress well, speak well, good parents, good grandparents, decent jobs, sociable, polite, you name it. All metrics for ideal LTR. When I think of these girls, I think of them as not having the metaphorical ‘fleas’ picked up from a lifetime of poverty and trauma with girls from a background like mine I have been with or dated.. Normal adjustment. (It seems like in my experience, there tends to be a tendency for girls from a less than ideal background to have baggage.)

Some part of me feels I don’t truly deserve LTR’s with girls like this, maybe that if they get to close, they’ll see the metaphorical ‘fleas’ I couldn’t shake off even as I do game them and land them again, but then I think about the guys that often end up in LTR’s with girls like this from observation from life; skinny fat lazy nepo chodes with no to mediocre game that look and dress like shit, as well as do whiny unattractive shit… You know, the average dude… just born in a better than not family and neighborhood. Dudes I frankly mog in most ways. A pool of dudes that deserve to have their best prospects stolen due to their indolence.

You could say naturals get with girls like that. Will a blue pilled natural actually keep a decent girl? Many times no, but I also see quality girls put up with volumes of lazy unattractive shit for years with no complaint.

Then comes the question of the downsides of that sort of girl; Tina from Edina, if any of you are familiar with Aaron Clarey (for those that aren't, Tina from Edina means some gradient of daddy's spoiled princess). I have dated the Tina from Edina type seriously. It was not fun (other than the sex).

Then the next logical question, if a person did want that sort of girl, how would a person repeatably achieve it? Would these girls as a whole be less likely closed via cold approach? I imagine girls like that would lean much more into social circle game. I do think that daygame success selects for girls with a certain set of characteristics, but that’s a whole other conversation. That said, girls like that are likely in run clubs, gyms, etc.

All that said, I have two questions I'm asking for thoughts on: when screening for girls to consider for an LTR, how important is the girl's background, family, past trauma, etc to you guys? Is it something you think about?

have any other men on here struggled with feelings like this? If so, what helped? I find this is a barrier in the "I am enough" frame in my cold approach and game.

Women are easily shaped by their circumstances. Background is very important. Aside from "does she pass the boner test" its the most important thing. The thing to screen for is dysfunction and this can be quite hard to do. If a girl has a dysfunctional background she will probably end up dysfunctional too. However, girls get cut a lot of slack and get a lot of support, particularly if they are hot. This means they can get by in life without their dysfunctionality necessarily showing.

So coming from a poor background is not a problem but coming from a background where the right solutions were not found to problems is. If her family were poor and hard working its fine but how do you tell the difference between this and too lazy to improve yourself, particularly in an age when the state often gives a lot of help to poorer families.

A good example would be my first wife (only legal wife, one lesson was enough). She presented herself as coming from a hard up family of small holders. They had 10 acres. They kept chickens and some sheep. The old man did some odd jobs painting and mending things. The story was that the old man had hurt his back and couldn't do a proper job any more but they got by like this. I saw no problem with this. But this was not the reality at all. In fact the old man was mad. The police had taken his guns way. The doctor had signed him off as mentally incapacitated and the family lived on extensive state benefits, supplemented by a bit of small holding and some illegal work on the side. Furthermore most of the extended family had gone to prison at some point. My wife turned out to be an enthusiastic shop lifter, who had the expectation that a man should always be around on hand because her father had always been at home in her childhood.

If you want to get with girls who have had tranquil lives, its not a bad plan. Remember though that just because they have had no hard tests in life, does not mean they are good. They are just innocent. Until they are squeezed by life we won't know which way they will go. Innocence is better than past trauma in a girl as women's minds mark easily but you are likely to see them as children a bit. Some of their ideas will be very simplistic -"We must worry about climate change and the poor in africa and why can't the state just give poor people the support they need" and so on. These are just nice ideas held by nice innocent women. If you have seen harder things in life you may think they are a bit shallow.