@Typo-MAGAshiv I realize this and even bolded it; if you look upthread it comes in response to one of his own assertions in the form of a negative declaration. I brought forward this point repeatedly to highlight the low quality of his reasoning and argumentation skills, and sure enough, he missed several chances to notice and point this out and possibly improve his position and even game as we went.

This is far from my first rodeo. I've been personally watching and engaged in climate and earth science debate going back to the '70s. What @Stigma has presented thus far amounts to the most base normie level of understanding the issue; basically, I can't personally engage or understand the fundamentals of the discussion, so I'm gonna deny the entire thing and go all-in with a slave morality of adopting the position of those who benefit most in the short term, even when my own benefit is marginal and the harm to my progeny extreme.

I've watched the same scenario play out across the entire population over and over; denial that there's even a problem even when it becomes personally impactful before our eyes. Like the stages of death, following such a predictable pattern. *Oh, the earth is TOO VAST for measly little mankind to ever affect it! (where religiotards start and end the discussion incidentally...) Oh maybe things are changing but THE CLImATe chAngeS NAtuRaLLy. Oh maybe we're affecting it BUT NOTHING WE DO CAN FIX IT. Oh maybe technical and regulatory fixes exist BUT THEY ARE TOO COSTLY AND WILL BANKRUPT INDUSTRY AND PUT US ALL INTO THE STONE AGE.

Some very specific examples of denied but ultimately solved problems of too many people burning through too many resources too quickly:

In Los Angeles, the sky would turn ORANGE with a haze that you could see obscuring the view just across the distance of the playground, and dozens of days every year when the smog was so bad that children were required to stay indoors instead of going out to recess and exerting themselves in it; when hundreds of people in marginal health would literally die from the pollution and the air literally hurt to breathe. Nitrous oxide emissions were the culprit, and with innovations like combustion chamber alterations like flame spreaders in ovens and furnaces, and timing and knock control plus three-way catalysts (possible only with unleaded fuel) in vehicles, the air in Los Angeles became clean again DESPITE the population and vehicle miles constantly increasing.

In even the remote Black Forest of Germany, the soil PH was so altered that trees hundreds of years old were dying because they couldn't take up nutrients despite their abundance in the soil. The culprit was identified as sulfur emissions causing acid rain. Naysayers scoffed that if it was real people would be melting, a bullshit argument of the type seen in this thread. Yet with low-sulfur fuels and sulfur scrubbers in large smokestack industries, the sulfur added to the atmosphere got reduced enough that acid rain is now a solved problem despite a steady increase in BTU burning.

The ozone layer was getting damaged resulting in steady measurable increase in ground level ultraviolet radiation that would burn plants and humans in direct sunlight worse than everyone remembered 10 years prior. Naysayers scoffed and said it wasn't so, and then that "they" wanted everyone to live without refrigeration and air conditioning even as we were told as kids not to play outside in the noon sun because we indeed burned quickly. The main culprit was identified as the massive use of chlorofluorocarbon gases as refrigerants and aerosol can propellants, which were particularly pernicious as the reaction was shown that a single chlorine atom in the ionosphere would repeatedly cleave thousands ozone molecules before eventually breaking down to an inert form itself. These gases were phased out with hydrocarbons used as propellants and hydrofluorocarbons used as very effective direct replacement refrigerants and even better and less harmful ones developed for new equipment.

There came a time when ALL the tuna harvested from ALL the vast oceans of earth contained so much mercury that it became dangerous to eat very much of it in a year. Yet scrubbers in coal plants, strict regulation of tailings at mercury mines (letting it leach directly the fuck into nearby rivers) and strict handling and disposal requirements for and phase-outs wherever possible in mercury-bearing consumer goods were all enacted, and tuna being too dangerous to eat isn't even a conversation any more.

These are all discussions and debates that I've seen get denied and argued against, but nonetheless implemented to great mutually beneficial effect, across my own lifetime. I recognize the same denial and argumentation patterns of the above solved-problems in the likes of @Sigma in his hand-waving of the current debate of climate change due to massive fossil fuel consumption WHILE unprecedentedly massive fires made possible by markedly unusual climate conditions actively burn in my immediate vicinity.

@AbusiveFather1

ugly girls sabotaging your reputation

in social circle game, how do you stop ugly girls that you've rejected from sabotaging your reputation and cockblocking you from getting with pretty girls? let's say there's 10 ugly girls and 2 pretty ones: you've rejected the uglies and now they've made you a target. if you really are a catch, the pretty girls technically shouldn't care, but getting with you will get them ostracized by the majority of the girls (uglies) in the social circle, so they don't dare to. how do you combat this? especially if you're the new guy

www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YDqm7LXt2g

Failing that, having your wits about you is unavoidably necessary in life. While first impressions can be important, if you're going to let yourself be drawn into any females orbit you'll not only have to deal with competing males, but ugly females angry over their poor odds of success. People who build an entourage for quantity over quality should be avoided as their ignorance and stupidity makes them a liability to everyone around them. Defending yourself from those who would employ mockery, insult, and ridicule is one of many skills you'll need to develop. In other instances, you will need to be ready to use force, if not violence.

@SeasonedRP I may come across as "supporting/defending DEI" here but it's not the case. I believe in competence and meritocracy as much as the next Manosphere denizen. That said, I call out as disingenuous and probably playing into oligarch-placed distraction, the using of DEI as a convenient scapegoat and punching bag, when it obviously results in missing the actual facts of the situation at hand.

The competitive bidding process on fixing the reservoir cover is down to bureaucratic and market force delays and don't require DEI to explain them.

As for the water pressure issue, this has been addressed in detail by numerous agencies and officials. No pumping stations were without power. Those in areas subject to grid shutdown are equipped with backup generators for this exact scenario of grid shutdown in anticipation of or response to wildfire. The systems are built to supply water even at a maximum flow volume estimated at a local emergency. The problem here is that the system was never designed to supply millions of gallons per hour to ALL of the hydrants in an entire region, which is the situation that emerged with this wildfire. Pressure and volume ended up reduced to nil at the hydrants at the highest locations. These are engineering and fiscal limitations, not DEI ones. It's down to the cost and practicality of scaling the ENTIRE system of reservoirs, pumps, and water mains up enough that they can handle a 0.00001% exception to normal or emergency flow volume needs.