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One thing that most of the manosphere has yet to understand, and it frustrates me to no end, is that with these women it's not just delusion. In fact it's not even primarily delusion;
It's a sheer lack of value. They don't actually value relationships.
Only valuing a relationship with a chad when a woman is not a Stacie means a woman DOES NOT value a relationship in the general sense.
If I swear up and down that I want a car, can only afford a clunker, and insist on only driving a Porsche, and am willing to go without a car if I can't get said Porsche, then I don't really value a car.
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This is, for me, the nearly textbook definition of Hypergamy: Entitlement derived via ultimatum: "Let me into First Class OTHERWISE I won't fly at all!" When conducted in a Cartel fashion, like with shiny overpriced dug up rocks, it works.
Happy Friday, Everyone!
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If I can't fly first class I'm not getting on that plane.
https://streamable.com/txev3z | Open Link in New Window@Stigma Sounds about right for a labour government. UK fireworks are already gay. No more bangers, no more loud aerial shells. UK is a crap country with no individual freedom and no tolerance of any man having any fun unless its liberal fun like gay sex or drugs.
I have not met someone who does it for me who has also been available to me
Yeah, that's not bad luck, it's the end of result of demanding too much and offering too little. The kind of man that can give her a "first class" life would would be worse off by committing to her.
I saw the UK is planning to ban fireworks for private purchase now.
That place is such a drag on the soul.
I agree with almost all of what you have written except the absoluteness of the statement you put in bold.
"You are either operating in your own Frame or you’re operating in hers. So, have Frame in the first place and make it solid as can be."
The reality is that we live many different narratives at the same time. PUAs actually spend most of their time conforming to women's frames just to get a few minutes of the woman inside their frame.
I think that the most powerful thing Key Master of MGTOW.com ever said was that PUAs are actually just giving women what they want. They are actually part of the problem of gynocentrism -serving women by handing out the easy lays slutty women crave to be given permission to enjoy. All they need is a guy they consider high value who is acting exciting and interested in them and will give them no consequences for slutting. Maybe this dynamic of stay in her frame long enough to get her acting enthusiastic in bed is the way to go for casual sex but for real relationships you actually need to share frame.
Of course you want to sell her your world view and get her to want to make a good chunk of it her own. Women generally appreciate a good helping of leadership -a woman generally goes to live in her husband's world but actually you will have to compromise a bit and give her some things she wants -some of the things she needs to feel happy with normal, the things that are her frame. The ideal goal is to be in the same frame as much as you two can without losing sight of what you individually want in life. That cannot be all your frame. A relationship creates a new normal of what is tolerated as normal life.
Where I take issue with Tomassi is when he starts talking like a guru who has rules. This makes his advice brittle and weak.
If you think that she has to be in your frame all the time then you are a fearful man with control issues.
You are the man. Your job is to lead but most of the time in a relationship there is no leading or following but a couple getting on with life. The domestic sphere is very important for women to be happy. You live in the domestic sphere a lot of your time,. You will have to be in her frame here for her to be happy. This is OK. It won't make your dick shrink or wither.
What we are really saying is that you need to be firm about your boundaries. You will have to compromise some of them but a lot of one way traffic is not compromise it is surrender. Never misunderstand what women mean by submission. They do not mean surrender -except to being carried away by positive feelings and experiences in the moment. They mean you taking care of them so they do not have to think -particularly worry- for themselves. When you do this you are guess what -bang in her frame. Get used to it. As ever Briffault's law always wins. The only way to avoid sending most of your time in your woman's frame is very careful selection to start -finding a woman who can compromise but actually has a fair amount of shared vision.
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