@SwarmShawarma This one is doubly telling.

Firstly it proves women will spend on a man they really want to snag.

Secondly it proves they can't be honest about it. Thousands of guys pay out like this for girls they hope to snag but they do it openly. They tell the girl and the girl gets her ego inflated by it and this in turn gives the guy a tiny weeny bit more chance with her. This girl lied that the tickets were free. This actually makes it not a very good offer "I have these free tickets I have to use up, will you help me use them?" is nothing like as gratifying as "I want to take you to. x (which I know you like) and I have paid for everything" The first offer makes me think I am doing her a favour, the second makes me feel like a stud stallion she is willing to pay for.

Why did she lie? Was it for the same reason women give male escorts the money to pay for the meal when they get taken out? -she doesn't want to see herself as paying for a man's time, it spoils the fantasy. or was it because men are too principled to accept such a desperate offer. If he took it he would feel he had to be her boyfriend and he didn't really fancy her. Did she know this deep down inside? I suspect it was this reason.

@Typo-MAGAshiv When you talk about these things, I can see you have a deep background in the manosphere. Very impressive.

I think its the binary nature of Alpha and Beta that make it such an attractive idea for people -just stop being so beta and switch on being alpha and all your woes are fixed.

I find myself falling into Alpha and Beta sometimes when talking about a guy who is doing his bit blue pill style to support and cherish a woman who is taking him for granted, I tend to think of and refer to him as "her beta"

I have sometimes thought it useful to look at Alpha and Beta through the light of female perception not male reality. I like to look at it like this.

There are two main routes to pussy in a normal mentally healthy woman, the Alpha and Beta routes. It is important to understand that these routes exist inside a woman's head not in the real world. The standard route is the Beta route. Pussy is earned. A male has to meet a threshold of sufficient quality to be accepted but then he also has to court and protect a woman, give resources to her and mate guard her, then when she feels in the mood, she will be open to him sexually. In short Briffault's law applies.

There is also a system for exceptions -the Alpha route. Here a male appears to be of sufficient quality -whether from looks, status or wealth that he simply can't be passed up on. For this man rules will be broken and he can have pussy on credit. The on credit bit is important because this route never endures long in an unbroken relationship. If a relationship starts by this route and the woman actually gets to eventually claim the man as "her's" she will eventually revert to only offering the man the standard Beta route.

There are plenty of good examples of this to be seen in the marriages of handsome, wealthy, famous men who get snagged by a hot groupie and end up being her beta. In most cases the man knows his worth and does not get snagged. He moves on and the woman pines for him and a man of his perceived value. In some cases the woman can become bitter and feel she has cheated herself and want to make it the man's fault for "using her". This is very common in the case of young women who fell for a man in a perceived position of authority -like a college lecturer or junior staff who fell for their boss.

My old school is currently having an amusingly belated paedo hunt. I gather it is to do with a girl who fell for a teacher back in the early 90's just after I had left. Back in those days a love affair between a 17 year old student and an English teacher was an open secret. The girl's own father found it simply a cause for eye rolling and no one was that bothered (it was a silly liberal school). My old pal's little sister used to keep a look out while the teacher banged the girl the stationary cupboard. The girl loved it. Now post wall, she suddenly decided that she was used and it was time to shout "Me too! me too" Don't forget me!" But the fact was that she couldn't help herself at the time. She though he was such value, she couldn't help but hunt him down.

This is why we need laws about teachers and students. Its not because its unnatural and perverted for older men to pursue young women, its because its only too natural for young women to fall for men they perceive as high value and tempt them to their destruction. There is this Alpha route that circumvents women's usual defences and PUAs practice the tells of high value in the hope of triggering this route.

There are also unhealthy women, broken by years of slutting who simply use this route as a way to give themselves temporary validation and pleasure and they are easy meat for PUAs but they too tend to feel they have cheated themselves in the end. You can't always put out on credit and not feel cheated in the end.

@robert87

few relationship questions

Been in a relationship with HB8 for 3 months. She is the same girl I posted about last time. My first time having a girlfriend.

My old post is here: www.forums.red/p/asktrp/324472/are_these_iois

On a new account because my old email address got hacked. Thanks mods for helping me clear it up.

What do you do if your girlfriend seems to have a swarm of beta orbiters and simps that are always trying to kiss her ass and get access to her?

What do I do about how she snoops through my things?

Is it normal that she is dominating my space, bringing a suitcase load of beauty products every time she stays over and leaving half of them behind? Five different kinds of shampoo in my shower, bottles of lotions in my car and my office and every room of my house?

Are these things normal or are there actions I should take? She is a very nice girl and I am happy. She is bright and cheerful, pleasant to spend time with, understanding, tries to make me happy and meet my needs.

Thanks lads.

Edit to answer own question:

I think red pill would say it would be to have other options and not focus on one girl but she is extremely hot while I am disfigured from an accident. Don't know how to get an abundance mentality when other women all think I'm scary. Act confident but honestly feel lucky that even one hot girl thinks well of me.

Here's a link to CS50's 2023 Introduction to Cybersecurity playlist. I've no clue how bad your tech problem was, or is, but that should be an interesting watch if ever you've the time to spare on it. Better to build the foundation of your understanding of such things with information provided in part by Harvard Professor David Malan, than anonymous internet nobodies like us.

As for the situation with the female you're dating, study the book. I get that you're apprehensive about being able to keep a hottie due to being disfigured, but you've been dating for the past three months and as far as we know she doesn't seem to mind. If she wants to snoop through your phone, calmly ask her to hand you hers, unlock them together, trade, and let the snooping begin. If you don't find anything of concern to you, kill time by looking for games on her phone, and play them until she returns yours. It'll help you maintain the 'Why would I care, I'm no liar' attitude. As for what to do if you come across something, aside for staying calm, I'll leave others to advise you there.

That she has male orbiters is kind of to be expected for a hot girl though. If she's knowingly doing things to encourage them to be in her orbit then your concern is only fair, especially if she's not introducing you to people as her boyfriend. However, with what you've shared, and my own lack of in interest in asking questions, outside of encouraging her to make the acquaintance of other females to build an entourage of young men and women, I don't see much else that you could otherwise do beyond accepting the situation and possibly making the move to date other girls.