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Provisioning behaviour from men triggers make-him-wait behaviour from women.
Provisioning counts against us sexually.
Why would we pay more to get less ?
3h ago WhereAreAllTheGoodMen Forum
Does this meet the WAATGM requirements?
There was a man in jail in Kentucky on video feed when I first sat down, and there was the judge, a victim advocate representing the ex-wifes interest, and the county prosecutor. The conversation seemed to be aimed at bail. The judge asked how much his back pay was and they said $98,000. I thought "Wow, what a deadbeat. How could you get that far behind!?" A little foreshadowing, I later felt ashamed I jumped to this conclusion.
The conversation can be summarized: The man was a truck driver, and leased his own truck. Somehow his support had been set to $20,000 a month, nobody blinked an eye at this or said "What!? That's ridiculous!". That means it only take about 4.5 months to get that far behind, but he was probably slowly going up over years of barely making it.
He said he worked so much to pay it that he didn't have time to go to court to fix it. As taking that time would set him back on support tens of thousands of dollars, and each modification attempt took multiple court dates months separated from each other. He said when he showed up to the first court date, his ex filed for an extension and the date was moved, this set him back, the second court date they wanted to perform proper discovery and subpoena all his financials so they rescheduled for months later and this set him back. He said that he couldn't get it fixed without it getting behind and that would make the judge not look kindly upon him in the hearing.
He asked the judge if they could release him with a GPS ankle strap so he could keep working in the interim. The judge said no, and that an ankle tracker in Kentucky wouldn't work for them in another state. So no bail, and the judge said he has to wait in jail for the court date in 30 days. The guy looked genuinely suicidal at this point. He said his support was set years ago, and at the time he had 3 trucks and they had added the value of the leased trucks into his income, making him look like he earned about $1 million a year when he only earned about $22k before taxes, and that his taxes were going unpaid too.
Nobody in that room gave him an ounce of respect or understanding. He was told to file for a court appointed attorney, and we'll talk next month.
Read MoreHey there, thanks for the comments.
@mattyanon Good criticism. The writings are not meant to be taken as absolute truth, but rather to encourage discussion around the subject. It's totally fine to disagre. Also, in the author's own words, "Take whatever is good from the bad content and leave the rest."
@adam-I Yeah I could make it into epub, I can do it next week.
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@Typo-MAGAshiv Flaired as bitch. Perhaps single woman tears?
This gal went to travel the world by herself and was surprised her boyfriend broke up with her and moved on with his life? Jeez I wonder why... It's like they expect men to be a screwdriver they can toss into a toolbox and forget about until they need it again.
Also, great advice to address 20-30 year olds with. She's in a position that literally no woman wants to be in (40yo and craving a relationship but still single) yet her message boils down to blaming men for her outcome, and taking zero accountability for the fact that the men that failed her were the ones she chose. Complete cognitive dissonance for her to hope she can still pick a good man at 40 when she couldn't at 20 or 30, and without doing any self-reflection of how she got to where she is. It's the quintessential "things just happen to me" approach to life that so many women love, but keeps them repeating the same mistakes over and over.
Read MoreAlso, there is a lot of deep negativity here that is misplaced.
Specifically:
4- They are naturally adapted to waiting.
This is not true, women have the patience of a toddler.
9. They assert themselves through the male suffering that arises from desire or love
Most women do not "assert themselves through the male suffering". There is no benefit to women of male suffering, quite the opposite. They directly cause a vast amount of male suffering, but this is not the intention or the benefit.
11. They like to confuse us with mental tortures
This is mostly not true, and is mostly exaggeration
16. They try to induce us to chase after them so they can have the pleasure of rejecting us / The feel attractive when they manage to reject a man
This is just not true - the truth is that women don't want to have to reject men because this is conflict and ends the chase. They want the chasing, but they don't want to do any rejecting. Believing that rejection is the desired goal for women is counter productive to men, and it's not true in most cases.
19. They need to feel that they are deceiving or manipulating
Actually women do their best to persuade themselves of the opposite.
24. They are patient
Err... no, they are not.
30. They prefer those who approach them pretending not to be interested
This is weird... I mean, I see what he's getting at, but this is not the right way to say it.
32. They feign indifference to suggest they are interested in someone else
No - they feign indifference to get an increase in the male bid.
41. They frustrate us by raising and then dashing hopes of sex
It's more useful to see this as an auction. The aim of raising sex as a possibility is to invite bids. The pretence that sex is imminent is a way to get more and higher bids. The sexual behaviour has selfish motives, not evil motives.
Anyway. This guy is convinced that women are evil and do bad things to men because they enjoy doing bad things to men and causing male suffering.
This is absolutely not the case and is even useful to believe.
The reality of women is that they are completely and utterly selfish but not evil. Almost all female motivations are selfish: they are trying to get something for themselves rather than cause harm or hurt to men.
All these writings are so pervasively filled with "women are evil" that we shouldn't be encouraging this stuff.
Let's focus more on "women are selfish and self centred and do not care about you" rather than "women are evil and trying to harm you".
Read MoreI'm so happy I did that
So happy that you sit at home alone and monologue into a camera instead of discussing your day with your husband?
So happy that you don't have children, while crying to your dog every night?
So happy that you try to convince younger women to sabotage their own lives and be as miserable as you are?
So happy you sit around and apply artificial veneers, because you know that no one wants the "real you"?
So happy that you focused on yourself all those years?
So happy that you feel the need to convince other women that you're so happy?
You're not happy. Your life is based on yourself and your own happiness, which does not lead to happiness. It cannot. I can show you a few very happy women, genuinely content. Coincidentally, none of them sit around thinking (or making videos) about their own happiness.
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