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I suspect this represents the outcome of various PUA and Manosphere figures one upping each other into a hyperbolic extreme.
That's exactly what it is.
50 girls before marriage.
I suspect this represents the outcome of various PUA and Manosphere figures one upping each other into a hyperbolic extreme.
The real advice for young men today, goes Don't MARRY the first woman you sleep with!
If that ever served the interests of men, it became obsolete by around the late 50s..
There exist edge cases and exceptions, but odds run hard against lucking a bona-fide Unicorn into your bed the first time out. It takes experience and reps to learn that Unicorns don't exist, then to replace naive idealism with a SMP version of Realpolitik.
Yes, LTRs hold advantages over hookup culture. But, the counterpoint to this for a young man who aspires to the Marriage and Family life, faces a distinct disadvantage in the marriage marketplace if he passes 25 with just 1 or 2 LTR notches in his bed post.
Divorce laws as they stand, make the stakes dangerously high, selecting a wife candidate with more blind trust than actual experience.
You're wasting your time.
I saw your blog post. Excerpts:
She refused to kiss me on the second date.
She evaded my kisses during the first part of the relationship.
She basically refused french kissing during the relationship.
She didn't give me one proper blowjob.
She didn't once hug me.
She didn't once initiate kissing me.
She said her libido used to be higher, with me its lower.
She said she doesn't want to have adventurous sex with me.
She doesn't desire you. She's using you for something else. This will never be a good relationship for you.
Also from your blog post:
She doesn't want to be associated with me on socials...
She's disrespectful to me in social settings.
These would be intolerable dealbreakers even without that first excerpt.
You need to end this for your own good. Back to this post:
If she paints the room and I say she can't move in, that's just shitty,
So what?
You know what's even more shitty? Continuing this farce.
Have you read the sidebar? Specifically, HumanSockPuppet’s Guide to Managing Your Bitches? Relevant portion:
A long-term relationship CANNOT be your end goal. You can only be OPEN to the possibility of having one.
Men are the gatekeepers of relationships. Since a relationship is what you have to offer, you mustn’t just give it away. It must be a reward she earns in small doses for inspiring your trust and devotion.
I understand that many of you want a LTR with a good girl – sometimes a series of flings isn’t enough to fulfill you. Believe me, I sympathize.
But winning a LTR is HER problem, not yours. Handing a girl your devotion won’t magically make her worthy of it. When you WANT a LTR too badly, you place your focus on the idea of having a relationship instead of evaluating the girl. You become fixated on your fantasy relationship and selectively ignore the things happening right in front of you: her deep character flaws, her indiscretions, and the red flags.
You must regard women as candidates applying for the job of being your girlfriend – a supporter, a lover, a comfort away from the everyday battles. Don't just hire a bitch because you want the position filled. Make sure you vet your candidates fiercely and hire the right girl for the job.
If you've actually read any MRP or actually listened to Rian Stone, you'd know that in the decade+ of MRP's existence, HSP's words have been proven true over and over again.
You are making the relationship your goal, and it's to your detriment.
Read Moreteeling other guys to focus on getting the money before them girls,
Bad advice.
Men should practice game as soon as they learn about it because nothing teaches and hones skill like experience.
All the manosphere dudes who say shit like "don't date until you're 30" or "don't date until you make [arbitrary yearly income]" or other such crap are setting men up for failure.
Because if you're 30, have your finances in order, but zero experience with women, guess what that makes you?
Easy pickings for Epiphany Phase women who have "had their fun" and are "ready to settle down" with a beta bucks.
2h ago Ask TRP Forum
Relationship of 8 months
She's 24, I'm 26, we've been together for 8 months now. When I don't feel like she's doing what I want I become sad/ disappointed. It' totally not outcome independence. Maybe my question is what do I do to make her wet with desire for me? Retrospectively I shouldn't have entered into this relationship until it's the baseline. But I'm in it. I feel like it could work. She wants to move in with me, I'm thinking moving her in in September. I know this goes against red pill advice, but she really wants it and she seems to love me. Only thing is the sex is not great. I mean she doesn't want to please me, not really. Jesus, as I write it, I realize it is the most cliche post ever. That one can't build a relationship where great sex lacks. This is my first relationship. I don't want to break up with her. She's painting the room in my flat on wednesday where we plan she'll live. I view her moving in as a trial period. I'm constantly trying to apply red pill, I've read NMMNG, I listened to a lot of Rian Stone. I improved a lot. I went from showering her with gifts to not giving gifts really to now giving when I feel like she's been good. I don't know what to do. It feels off. But I won't break up with her, I think everyone will suggest to break up with her. If she paints the room and I say she can't move in, that's just shitty, I don't want to do that. She already bought the paint. I'm going to give it a chance, move her in in September and apply red pill, married red pill. Read the side bar, workout, etc. Write field reports. Also explicitely we discussed that we're in an open relationship. But I didn't sleep with anyone else during our relationship and she says she didn't either, and doesn't plan to. If she does I know red pill says it's over. Having her made me unmotivated to game others, but I think that would be really important, especiall since we explicitaly talked about that she's ok with it.
Read More@Typo-MAGAshiv I guess it really comes down to how well do we spend our time. I agree with you
I've had a much more pleasant experience when I was into social dance, and I would recommend men to try it.
Maybe because the scene in my city centered around dance schools and their parties, and the instructors usually monitored and discouraged extreme behavior in there.
It might also have to do with the kind of dance, e.g. I expect Latin to have more cluster B's than Rock 'n' Roll or Tango. It might also have to do with Europe vs the US.
