@Lone_Ranger no you are most definitely obsessed with that fat hog which is why you literally post her every chance you get because of your sick mentally deranged obsession that makes you not go well

@Farang131 it doesn't matter the way many people use the word, but rather what actually is

@Farang131 almost all of human communication is manipulation

A baby crying is manipulation.

A valid, sound, deductive argument is manipulation.

Appealing to a sense of duty is manipulation.

Offering money in exchange for a service is manipulation.

Anytime you or anyone else tries to get someone else to change course, take actions, cease an action, etc etc etc it's manipulation.

Manipulation isn't inherently evil or good. It just is.

And it behooves one to be aware of it.

@Typo-MAGAshiv In addition to this the meaning of words can and does change and develop over time its not set in stone otherwise we would still be speaking old english etc.

@Typo-MAGAshiv I think how a word is actually used is important for example for a long time the word "gay" technically just meant happy but that's not how people used it. If you insisted on using it the proper way there would potentially be a lot of avoidable misunderstandings.

I think trying to stick to a strict dictionary definition no matter what with no nuance can be a little autistic.

@Typo-MAGAshiv you were asking for it!

@Typo-MAGAshiv

@Typo-MAGAshiv Fair point but I think many people use the word when referring to deceptive or abusive manipulation rather than normal day to day manipulation.

It's like everyone lies but if you are called a liar it is usually done so when you are lying above and beyond what is "normal" or "acceptable"

@Typo-MAGAshiv perceptive comment. Types of manipulation are either permitted by society, frowned upon or banned. But these are societal value judgements not absolute differences. What is permitted certainly changes across time and then the sheep all think they have discovered the true form of morality.