@sweatybadger

How do I get over the fact that I "lost" a virgin

This goes back to my break up post, but TLDR had a literal virgin that I became her first for everything sexually. Things didn't end up working out, now I'm tainted because that was my literally a 1 in a billion chance.

I accept total accountability that it was the lack of me being a complete man that lead to me losing her. Now she's literally out there riding the cock carousel after her first long term relationship with me lol...

Consider investing into a reliable ready reference you can pick up and study to better prepare yourself for engaging the opposite sex. I'd suggest that you get yourself a copy of Doc Love's "The System: The Dating Dictionary". Doc Love, who until his passing was also known as Tom Hodges, wrote a weekly advice column that's archive is mirrored on several mens focused sites and a podcast. His media is a bit pricey, but it's a solid foundation a guy can branch out from in RP aware circles. I'd suggest you review his advice column to decide if his view on dating and relationships is aligned with what you aspire for yourself. To save yourself a search, give this scribed link a gander to find out if his book is something you'd like to add to your library. It should also be available on libgen.

@Artemis

First Date ASD / LMR? Key Takeaways and Suggestions for a Newbie?

A couple months ago i (22yo) made a post about trying to improve my social skills/ dating life. Any help is appreciated as this is my best attempt so far. (TLDR); First drinks date, escalation went OK, was clearly DTF, but after suggesting hotel (couldnt do either of our places that night) resistance started (shit like "next time" and "i gotta get back") I didn't know what to do so my inexperience cost me an easy lay. Suggestions to improve and not fuck up next time?

So i approached this girl in college after IOI's, went on a coffee date next to school ( i struggle a bit with rapport building so this is my fix for now). A week goes by without talking so i text her to hang out for drinks (offered 2 weekdays) we agree on 1 easily and i stop texting. Day of date she texts me are we still going (IOI?) i'm like sure wear sth nice.

On the date i slowly kino (been 2 yrs since last date ... ), but an hour into the date im like wtf i gotta man up. So i escalate and eventually was making out with her and touching her boobs in the bar. I realized it was on so we left the bar, I took her for a walk to chill somewhere secluded to make out and figure out where to f close (could not do my house that day). During the walk we were making out heavily and she randomly said shes not looking for a relationship atm. I responded " I didn't say anything about a relationship tho". (here i think i responded well but seems i must give off relationship vibes somehow?). Learned she had a roommate so hers wasn't an option either.

That's when i lost my frame. We get in my car and i say sth along the lines of "we really need to go to a hotel to continue the vibe". That's when she started saying shit like next time, i need to go home etc... BUT she started making out again w me (so shes not rly in a rush) and we jump in the back of the car and i got her grinding on my lap while i was in her bra. Now i get rly confused as i suggest a hotel again as this is a public street with ppl walking by and i'm not into the idea of car sex, but she says she rly needs to get back? I say ok and stop making out but she says "did that bother you?" I said no but i think she could see i was unsure of what to do. Anyway, she continues making out but after a bit i stop bc it was pointless. (was it?) Felt like she would not stop anytime soon so that added to the confusion.

She wanted to uber home but i offered to take her home in hopes of taking her somewhere secluded to see what happens ( didn't try after all ). She was making out w me again during the ride and when we were outside hers i kissed her gn whatever. (I now realize i should have let her take an uber since she didnt even put out... would have probably increased chances of her still being DTF for next time. Ughh my beta part is not dead yet...)

Considering the above and the fact that she doesn't offer to pay or even say thanks (wtf ?) i think the best thing to do is to just text her after the weekend and tell her to come over to check out my alcohol collection (thats my best at creating plausible deniability LOL) assuming shes still DTF. If she says no = next. I'm bummed i missed an easy lay and bc i heard girls may not give a 2nd chance if u fuck up when shes clearly dtf. Im only now experiencing such slutiness irl and seeing TRP in action as just a couple years ago i thought girls were pure and innocent (riiight).

Say i could have done my place that night would it have made a difference (perhaps hotel worsens ASD and needs way more work) or did i fuck up elsewhere too? I have not looked into asd/lmr much as i did not expect this much progress honestly; i hoped i would be lucky not to get it this time (well..). What do you guys think? What are the key lessons here for everyone? What could i have done differently? What should i do now? Thank you so much for your time, means a lot for a newbie..

Consider investing into a reliable ready reference you can pick up and study to better prepare yourself for engaging the opposite sex. I'd suggest that you get yourself a copy of Doc Love's "The System: The Dating Dictionary". Doc Love, who until his passing was also known as Tom Hodges, wrote a weekly advice column that's archive is mirrored on several mens focused sites and a podcast. His media is a bit pricey, but it's a solid foundation a guy can branch out from in RP aware circles. I'd suggest you review his advice column to decide if his view on dating and relationships is aligned with what you aspire for yourself. To save yourself a search, give this scribed link a gander to find out if his book is something you'd like to add to your library. It should also be available on libgen.

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