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I find it really interesting how differently women can react to the idea that you’ve slept with other women.
I had almost the exact same conversation with two women, both of whom I found exceptionally attractive.
About a year ago, I met A, 22. After we slept together, she asked about tying her up and getting kinky. During the conversation, I showed her my box of sex toys. As soon as she saw a human dog leash and gag, her reaction completely changed. She was visibly disgusted, left the next morning, blocked me everywhere, and I never heard from her again.
Last night, I met H, 27. Almost the same conversation happened. She was interested in being tied up and trying things she hadn't done before.
I hesitated before showing her the toy box, but she insisted. Her reaction couldn't have been more different. Rather than being put off, she became even more turned on by the dog leash and gag. And the fact that I'd done things with other women that she hadn't experienced herself, fired her up.
It’s fascinating how the exact same information can make one person lose attraction while making another person considerably more attracted to you.
Read More@Vermillion-Rx This is pretty much the male end of Briffault's law. A proper relationship (not a few dates to try you out), even a bad relationship usually lasts as long as you tolerate her shit and keep making an effort. You only get let go when you decide to let yourself out of the plantation.
First off. Very well done! Honestly, who cares that she was a terrible slut when you are no longer saddled with the self imposed stigma of being a late virgin. The mental block is gone.
Be kind to yourself. Its the trashy ones who find it easier to get through the barrier of your virgin uncertainty and inexperience. Funny that I was just writing in my last reply to you how it was only the trashy ones who had come to me when I was too awkward to actually go make a move. Trashy girls have sex with far more guys, so odds on for anything but a top 20% guy, 90+% of easy sex is with trashy girls.
Its actually very hard to get an STD. I am a raw dog only guy but I never got one. Were you ever vaccinated against HPV virus? This is the big slow burn risk with oral sex on women. HPV virus can lead to cancer later. Gives women cervical cancer, so younger ones tend to vaccinated but if neither of you were, its a risk with a slut.
Headspace wise, just chill. There is nothing you need to do now. Its a huge step and also nothing has really happened. You broke through an invisible mental barrier but because it was an invisible mental barrier it was only significant to you. So just relax a bit. It was all in your head. There is nothing you have to do. Now life goes on. If you don't catch oneitis, life probably gets better too. If you get all excited and catch onitis, I promise you it is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. Better to catch a STD than oneitis!
You have a perfect opportunity now to walk away without having to try to have a relationship with her. Many guys get saddled with trying to have a relationship with a low value girl (either low value from looks, personality, sanity or trashiness) that they lose their virginity to, when really all they needed to do was lose their virginity and then upgrade but they get trapped by oneitis. You can just say you don't feel comfortable with someone seeing other guys so no thanks, bye. Sorted.
Yeah when they are not invested, the emotional leakage of truth in "jokes" is phenomenal. Later on when they become invested the stream of joked truth gets a lot dryer. Just don't get oneitis and you won't need to find this out.
Read MoreI like that the traits she lists that she thinks makes her desirable are considered the "bare minimum" that a guy has to meet to even qualify to meet some 300lb divorced single mom. Let's see:
-Lots of friends -> yeah, any guy who doesn't demonstrate the ability to maintain friendships is automatically considered a serial killer
-cool hobbies -> don't we all? Also, I highly doubt men think your hobbies are cool. List them if you want us to decide if they are or not.
-active lifestyle, above average health/fitness -> incels get told all the time to hit the gym. A six pack is the new bare minimum for men's fitness, while that 300lb woman is now considered living her best life.
-above average attractiveness -> pics or GTFO. No person, man or woman, these days, risks a woman's wrath by telling her whether her jeans actually make her ass look fat. Meanwhile, men get shamed daily for not meeting fashion and beauty standards; standards, incidentally, set by a fashion industry dominated by women and gay dudes.
-a good job, own a house, no kids -> Like I said, bare minimum for a man not be shamed as some Peter pan man-baby and laughed out of the room for even thinking he's worthy of being "worthy" of a "real woman".
-i'm funny, thoughtful, able to have a decent conversation -> Then why don't you play dancing monkey for once? It's always been the guy's obligation to maintain a conversation, while the woman sits there and judges you like they're at a fucking olympic figure skating contest, and they're the gold medal. Otherwise, a woman says she doesn't feel a spark and moves on to the next dude willing to buy her a dinner for the privilege of auditioning to buy her another one. This is true even with OLD. Bumble became notorious that even though they required women to send the first message, almost the only thing women would send was "hi" and expect the man to actually initiate the conversation with something witty. Meanwhile decrying men who similarly send template messages to their matches. And notably, Bumble recently dropped the requirement that women must message first. I guess being funny and thoughtful was too high a standard for most women to meet.
By her own standards, her match should be a guy who women dismiss as barely meeting the bare minimum. A nerdy accountant who maintains a tolerable BMI and can string two sentences together. And that's before bringing in her age. And yet, somehow, I doubt that's the type of guy she's willing to accept while complaining there are no good men left.
Read More9h ago Ask TRP Forum
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I'm seeing this smoking hot unicorn virgin who has never spoken to a man before, she seems dtf how to not mess this up (close enough to a real post that was locked and removed)
I'm rich and jacked and I fuck a ton of women but I'm getting bored of it, how to enjoy variety (yes I've actually seen that shit on here before)
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Read More39 and no kids. I will also bet never married. In her 20's, she was looking for the 6'4" cowboy/astronaut tech billionaire with a 10"penis and the looks of a Hollywood leading man. And if the man did not have all of those requirements, he was rejected. 20 years later, Boo Hoo WAATGM?
6h ago 2026-08-29 22:47:50 WhereAreAllTheGoodMen Forum
I mostly act like a dude, and my youth and fertility are gone. why men no likey?!
Heh. This "I own a house and have a great career" is shit women want in a man. Men are mostly indifferent to it in women. This is like if a man said something along the lines of:
I'm a great cook, I'm modest and quiet and kind, I'm great with kids. Why aren't women interested?!
5h ago Ask TRP Forum
Lost Virginity, Mindset all fucked up
Recent Post: https://www.forums.red/p/asktrp/325619/unsure_where_i_went_wrong
Hello all, just had an update and some questions. I want to thank everyone that posted on my last post and gave me advice on previous posts when I was feeling lost. I read it all and it helped. Now I’m 31, but no longer a virgin.
I read what everyone posted, and next time I saw her at work, I flirted with her pretty hard and didn’t bring up any of the texting. Kissed her in the breakroom, and she loved it. After that I used MusicGoons line, asking when she’s free so I can “check her house for spiders for her” and she just laughed and loved it. A couple days later she said she had a spider and was freaking out. We got off work at the same time that day, so I said I’d come over as soon as we were done, and then I showed up. I started off strong, immediately started making out with her and then fucked her. She didn’t cum, so I did oral on her and made her cum (in hindsight, stupid as fuck). And well… let’s just say there were a lot of red flags I ignored. A lot.
After we fucked, I spent the night there, and not going to lie, I acted pretty beta during this, wanting to cuddle and shit. She even said I was clingy. (Which confused me at first, but now makes sense if she hooks up with dudes every night). As we were chilling there, I noticed she had a lot of condoms on her bedside table. Like a good amount. She mentioned she was only looking for casual stuff. Joked about “having a roster”. She joked about sex stuff a lot, which I thought was her way of being sexual, but in hindsight she was telling me she sleeps around. When I still thought she was joking, I told her to cut that shit out. I asked if I could grab a powerade, and she said no, but when I asked why, she said I probably didn’t want to know.( I think this in reference to asking her to cut shit out, and basically said with that it’s some other dude’s powerades for after they fuck her). Don’t think she was joking now. I remember somone here saying to listen to what a girl jokes about, and they’re telling you shit indirectly. Wish I internalized that better. Anyway, basically found out she’s pretty slutty.
Still happy about losing my V card, but now I feel kind of disgusted and am super worried about STDs. I wrapped my dick up(thank god) but feel gross having eaten her out. I got an STD panel done today and will do another one in a month or so. Terrified I caught something on my first time. Also texted her the next day some beta shit about how I had a good time. Since that I went to the gym and cleared my head up and realized what I pussy I’ve been. Now I’m trying to get in a good headspace again, but struggling. Planning to never text her again, hit the gym hard as fuck, and when I get my panels back, try to put myself out there again. Going to go back and read the literature again because I instantly became blue pilled right after we fucked, so obviously I have a lot of work to do.
My questions are: 1) What to do about STD anxiety? I feel so fucked for ignoring so many signals and eating her out. 2) Should I practice game and try to find other chicks while waiting for the panels? 3) All I feel right now is disgust at the fact she obviously fucks so many guys and anger at myself for not seeing it, so what were some ways y’all got your mental state right when you were spiraling early on in your journey? 4) If I do have STDs, how do I deal with it? But honestly, it feels fucking amazing to not worry about being a virgin anymore.
Answering my own questions: 1) Keep myself constantly busy until I get the panel back, then don’t worry about it until I take the second test in a month. 2)No? Feels irresponsible and obviously I have lots of internal work to do. 3) Gym. Lots of working out, and meditation. 4) I have no fucking clue, kinda panicking. Therapy maybe.
Thanks for all the advice from everyone so far, would probably have been an eternal virgin if it wasn’t for y’all.
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