@itsovER

isnt it a red flag if she's easy?

So many things you need to consider.

1) one man's red flag might be another man's yellow flag or green flag.

2) something that's a red flag for an LTR might be a green flag for something short term.

3) if she's easy for all men, then she's just a slut. But why not still have some fun?

4) if she's easy for you but not anyone else, that's awesome.

5) taking my numbers 3 and 4 in conjunction, consider Iron Rule of Tomassi #3:

Any woman who makes you wait for sex, or by her actions implies she is making you wait for sex; the sex is NEVER worth the wait.

Full article: Wait for it?

6) are you shooting for an LTR/girlfriend instead of just getting laid? Have you not read HumanSockPuppet’s Guide to Managing Your Bitches? From within that gem that's part of the Red Pill sidebar:

A long-term relationship CANNOT be your end goal. You can only be OPEN to the possibility of having one.

And as many MRP users over the past 10-13 years or so have demonstrated, it's true even when you're already married. Phrased another way:

as a man, your job is to be fuckable and get sex. a relationship is a woman's problem.

Hope this helps.

@FrancoAP to add to what Vermy and Baldy already said:

A) You want a woman who wants you, who is so into you that she loses her inhibitions when you're around.

B) You want sex.

C) You want your time not to be wasted.

A + B + C = you hope she fucks you as soon as possible.

Back when I was single and figuring things out through PUA and experimenting, I ended up having a 3-date rule: if we didn't fuck within 3 dates, I dropped her.

Out of all the women I ended up fucking at all, 2 were on the 2nd or 3rd get-together (over 20 years ago, so don't remember), and all the rest were on the first. Anyone for whom I tried to be patient before instituting that rule, ended up just stringing me along and wasting my time.

Unless a woman is a virgin (and I mean a true virgin with none of that "technical virgin" bullshit), if she isn't fucking you, then she's fucking someone else.

To [quote Rollo Tommasi](therationalmale.com/2011/09/23/wait-for-it/]:

Iron Rule of Tomassi #3

Any woman who makes you wait for sex, or by her actions implies she is making you wait for sex; the sex is NEVER worth the wait.

When a woman makes you wait for sex you are not her highest priority. Sexuality is spontaneous chemical reaction between two parties, not a process of negotiation. It’s sex first, then relationship, not the other way around. A woman who wants to fuck you will find a way to fuck you. She will fly across the country, crawl under barbwire, climb in through your second story bedroom window, fuck the shit out of you and wait patiently inside your closet if your wife comes home early from work – women who want to fuck will find a way to fuck. The girl who tells you she needs to be comfortable and wants a relationship first is the same girl who fucked the hot guy in the foam cannon party in Cancun on spring break just half an hour after meeting him.

@throwaway0387387 oh man oh man.

Mistake #1: catching feels in general.

Mistake #2: oneitis over a chick you never even smashed.

Mistake #3: being shy… and taking a whole month to grow a pair of balls. A month is like a year in hot chick time.

Mistake #4: you could tell by her demeanor that maybe she is not into you… yet you kept chasing and kept feeding her attention. Simp behavior; cut that shit out immediately or this will be a repeated cycle.

Mistake #5: telling her that you’re “falling for her” when you never even piped. She’s 1000% been getting her back blown out by chad this entire time.

Mistake #6: continuing to helping her w school after she rejected you. Simp behavior.

Mistake #7: replying to her first snap.

the only thing you did right was walk with B.

Action Plan:

• Hit the gym and work out a proper diet plan for bulking/cutting (whatever suits you best).
• get better looking better fitting clothes
• go to the bars every weekend. make likeminded guy friends and Rizz around. Start with approaching chicks till you become comfortable and build eco
• read sex god method so you know what to do if you ever get laid.
• avoid oneitis like hellfire. Talk to and sleep with multiple women

What Manosphere figures just get under your skin?

I'll go first.

Some content creators seem like they have a hidden agenda. You ever get that feeling that something is not quite right?

Here are a few:

• Better bachelor
• Sandman
• Rollo Tomassi
• Coach Corey Wayne

#1 - These guys are like the Beastie Boys. They seem selected by the industry to capitalize on this new "rap thing" get TONS of industry support, rip off the mannerisms and culture of others, have world class song writers, producers, and sound engineers to make the product, and get beaucoup money and rewards. But they do not live in the hood and never really have.

#2 - Back when r/atheism was a default sub, I used to enjoy the banter there. But out of nowhere this dude named Sam Harris shows up on Youtube. IMMEDIATELY my radar went off. He studied the arguments, said the acceptable words, and went after the popular targets. And people ate it up! Then little by little, he started targeting Islam specifically. BOOM! There it is! Not one fucker would acknowledge this obvious fraud. So I stopped commenting. Then he is on Bill Maher - how the hell did some loser like that get THAT much exposure and access? Hmm. Curious. Fast forward to today, and everyone knows he is a POS. But the signs were there from the beginning. He was ALWAYS a POS. My gut was right on this one.

#3 - The manosphere is being subverted from within. These men listed above have a STRONG Beastie vibe to me. Let's call them "Beastie Men". I could be wrong, but I think they are all imposters.

LTR Update #3: I’m in the purgatory phase. I know I just made that up but to me it’s when you distance yourself from your LTR and get perspective. The last 3 days I’ve been on a porn binge after an almost 15 month abstinence. Today I also broke my T break of 25 days (T break=weed break) because from past experience it (for me) stops porn use and depression, anxiety, OCD, and suicidal thoughts. Why might you ask would I binge on porn? It’s cause after my last counseling session I realized I can’t trust my LTR anymore. I’ve read about it for months from RP forums and websites but holy shit guys it’s true. Some comment that I talk too much or whatever and that’s true lol. It’s who I am, it frustrates me a lot too. But there’s a deeper meaning behind it - to alert others. I want to reach out to the over-analyzers and super skeptics, the ones that can never really shut their brains off. Guys the breach of trust first happened when I finally (after 4 months) checked my LTR’s phone after being away at a military exercise for 2 weeks. I found messages to a guy’s snap stories (he’s a sharp looking guy in a suit) and my LTR’s replies of “” and other flirty messages. I found where he had asked her out soon after her and I “officially” got together, by her request (fuckup number #1 I only vetted for a few weeks but knew her as a work acquaintance for months). Most everyone here is ab the details and I think it’s good to learn so here’s a few. First detail is when she denied to go out with him, she didn’t just say “no sorry bro I gotta boyfriend lol” which I believe your LTR should be saying or something damn close and leaving it there. Nah, my LTR’s response was almost “oh my goodness I’m flattered but I can’t but I would love to, except my boyfriend wouldn’t appreciate me hanging out with a guy 1:1”, as if she’s trying to convince herself, to him. Well this guy has some game (but weirdly enough sends smilies a lot and acts like a beta orbiter but his looks say otherwise). So I obviously am a little off put by that but I convince myself it’s a one off. I dig deeper and find out the “” emojis after he STILL won’t drop it. He still asked her out again and instead of my LTR acting pissed she just kept entertaining it. He would randomly message her or vice versa, there were weird overly nice texts like these two were besties or some shit but I still thought “nah it’s cool man the worst it can be is emotional cheating maybe she’s just immature”. See I convinced myself and had to keep convincing myself of these things, which me just 5-6 months ago would’ve dumped her ass for. Then I found she had a private snap story with the only two other guys she snapped (the guy above being one of them) and a bunch of chicks. There was shit on there I didn’t like, things she knew I would’ve hated. Then I found another conversation from another guy. Then my younger bro went through where she worked one night and while he’s driving through the parking lot she’s walking back to her job from a guy he knew there’s car, and she her demeanor was surprised to see my bro (even tho he goes there all the time and she knows it). I confronted her ab this (thinking it was RP and obviously just amazed at the audacity) and she swears it was because he had her work hat in his car. I never did follow up with my bro to ask if he saw a hat. Here’s the thing guys. At the end of the day, she COULD be telling the truth. But as many said before me, watch what she DOES. Why would a girl go another guy’s car at night to get a hat? Especially a small girl who is adamant that men are assholes and predators? I can either believe nothing happened or be open to the plausible reality that she sucked and/or fucked this guy. Then I would ask things in the future about stories and she’d leave out certain things but again, I’d convince myself. I of course confronted her of everything since I was in shock of the claims and she cried and begged, she sucked and fucked me but it was never really the same. Then, likely out of guilt, she booked an expensive vacation for my birthday for us. I thought that by her “making up” for it all it would make it right, I even told her any slight screw ups from this day forth and I’m out. Yet the facade didn’t last too long and ultimately I noticed she would still entertain one of the guys from time to time. Recently, I found out she hid the chat (not deleted, didn’t know it was an option) of yet ANOTHER guy and when confronted about it she didn’t have much to say other than she wanted “to keep you at the top of my Snapchat list”. I was floored and left her house, not responding to calls for days. The day after that, I enrolled in therapy. The last session ended with me realizing this LTR can’t be trusted and the floodgates came open. I’m just figuring out now how to do it. There will likely be a lot of fallout because she seems super invested in me but guys don’t make my same mistake.. don’t think just because she “loves” you that she’s not just using you as a boyfriend prop. In many ways I was redpill, in many ways blue. A solid purple pill guy so to speak. But you shouldn’t ideally be “purple” until years into a marriage if at all. You shouldn’t tolerate your LTR talking to men and flirting in front of you and behind your back in the name of trying to remain looking alpha. The most alpha shit you can do is go with your gut, the first time. Months later my mind is gushing open with realizations and truth i’d pressed down for so long. Sure. She might thinks she loves you, but she probably also likes getting tag teamed by those guys you always had that “off” feeling about. Women are experts at rationalizing their emotions for themselves. You don’t want to know how deep the rabbit trail might go, just react appropriately to her actions. If there’s disrespect or shady shit, leave. The ONLY time anything bad MIGHT be tolerated is if she admits it to you first, even then it’s probably not worth it and you can react appropriately and RESPECT YOURSELF FIRST.

Not too long ago I thought that even if I was JUST PLATING a girl and she was fucking other guys it’s alright, now I have a king mindset. If a girl thought I was a king, and wanted me above all else, would she put herself in ANY position to compromise that? Texting, going to a car, DM’s, flirting with another man? She 100% wouldn’t because you are the prize, the king! If she does, it means she doesn’t respect you, end of story. The way I see it, kings of old used to have concubines (likely virgins) and they all wanted to be by the king and chosen by him. But they were content just being fucked. Obviously the king wouldn’t want others fucking his women. Would you want someone else fucking or having access to yours? Women who want wholeheartedly you won’t fuck around on you, period. You won’t hear about it, see it, or worry because she will reflect the fact it doesn’t exist by her respect and admiration of you. So before you guys try to think around your next LTR situation “I think she’s disrespecting me what do now?” just ask yourself, would she tolerate it if it happened to her? Is your sweet princess pussy really yours or are you just the star for the moment? If she’s gotta make excuses, she’s just not THAT into you bro. Find a girl who is because when you do, THAT girl will suck your dick to the moon without asking, do everything you want without you even asking, and make a 100% effort. After all, she wants her side next to a king. Then it’s up to you if you want, to choose an LTR from your “harem”. If she isn’t always choosing you, always sacrificing and ready for you, giving for you, there’s another king on her throne. Worry about you first and be the most badass guy you can be, the rest will naturally fall into place. No, I don’t think it’s wrong to expect a girl to only fuck you but you fuck other girls. Go back to the king analogy. Once you start thinking like respecting yourself, tolerating yourself, and demanding such as a king would, then you will be. Funny how the mind works.

Btw why the porn binge? Something about seeing other chicks rammed and choked probably behind their bf’s/husbands backs like mine is to me is some sort of sick sadistic pleasure. I feel less guilt about that then fucking my girl and possibly slipping into another man’s cum or kissing it and catching some shit. It’s a rough world guys, gotta protect yourself and look out for you.

I got stories on stories even from my past. Hell I have a couple stories on female hypergamy from when I was in the Army that’ll blow your fucking minds. From an ex making herself available behind her husbands back to being able to call off an engagement/wedding of another girl. The crazy shit you never thought your seemingly God-fearing and innocent wife/fiancé/girlfriend wouldn’t do would rock your world.

Anyway, I think I’m still in an anger phase of RP and gotta get out of this fucking LTR. Remember guys, just say NO to pussy! Feel free to ask or request any stories or clarification. As much as I’m learning, I desire to teach and educate. Learning from each other is wise and sometimes the only truth we’ve got!