@deeplydisturbed

I have less of a problem with this dude than he thinks

Well, like I told him before: he's not important enough to be my enemy. He's a LOLcow.

Blanket statements and horrific accusations about those here with military service. His charges are very fucking serious and very ugly. And often completely random

That was my biggest issue with him recently. Bullshit accusations of very serious crimes.

Thing is, he's too much of a retard to take seriously.

He is Sometimes incoherent. I literally cannot understand the point he is making

"sometimes"?!

Yeah, I frequently suspect he tried to play the game Henry Kissinger used to play: trying to ramble and bore people into agreeing.

Usually, though, he proved himself just to be an idiot.

He goes schizo sometimes - friendly in one comment and then suddenly very nasty - seemingly out of nowhere

"sometimes"?!

I almost blocked him once but decided against it

I actually did have him blocked for a while a couple of years back. I unblocked him because of the entertainment factor (LOLcow).

However, my feed is already better off with his absence, so I'll take the approach I took with carnold and slutmagazine: block back in case he changes his mind.

If I want to peak at his silliness for a laugh or for a #LickTheShaft shitpost, that's what incognito browsing is for.

CC: @woodsmoke, @lurkerhasarisen

@Whisper

You are not entitled to your own facts.

Says the guy who responds to two posts discussing in detail numerous facts he left out when discussing the event, with a cut and paste that mostly debunks a claim I never made using a scene from a fictional movie.

As for the c/p claim that there was no evacuation, it is only true that there was no MANDATORY evacuation, and at the time the NRC didn't even have the authority to mandate evacuations. The Governor, on the advice of the NRC chairman, recommended that pregnant women and preschool age children within 5, then soon 20 miles of the plant, evacuate the area. About 140,000 people ended up voluntarily evacuating. THAT is what actually happened, that you are characterizing as no evacuation, miscommunication, and public confusion.

IDK why you're so committed to presenting the most #licktheshaft interpretation of this event and downplaying its actual severity, as if half the reactor core melting can reasonably get characterized as no big deal, since after all the outcome was way less bad than Chernobyl. I've seen you express dismay over public resistance to nuclear power, yet here you are perpetuating the exact kind of dismissal and hand-waving that causes and justifies that very resistance, and makes skepticism the rational position for people to hold. Overcoming that skepticism after hearing obvious lies and doublespeak requires members of the general public to gain a greater understanding of the inner workings of various types of nuclear power plants than they normally reach of their own cars, microwave ovens, and computers. That, not irrational and abstract leftist environmentalist ideology as often gets blamed, is why we don't have nice things like breeder reactors and thorium power on the funding table today.

@Whisper (Continued after IRL business)

The only radiation released from the plant as a result of the accident was a planned and deliberate venting of slightly irradiated noble gases

Additionally, steam and hydrogen from the highly contaminated primary coolant were vented directly to the atmosphere, a hydrogen deflagration or explosion depending on which account one believes increased pressure within the entire containment building by 2 bar, and superheated contaminated primary coolant exceeded the capacity of its holding tank, rupturing a pressure disc and flooding the building with contaminated coolant water, a substantial amount of which then got pumped to another building outside of the main containment. That which didn't steam off into the atmosphere seeped into and I presume to some extent through the concrete.

exposure about equal to one chest x-ray.

Only by virtue of great dilution in the open atmosphere and averaged over large areas, discounting the likelihood of localized high concentration plumes. Framing it this way discounts that radioactive gas emissions got released in petabecquerel quantities, and particularly dangerous Iodine-131 in terabecquerel quantities. Monitoring outside the plant was begun late after the start of the event and very local to it.

What was not a minor incident was how the public interaction was handled.

Like the video you linked, your post downplays the incident and its actual contamination and emphasizes the quality of the public-facing response. Studies vary in the amounts of actual excess cancer cases found in the following years, and their samples got biased by stipulations that every individual who received insurance settlements over real or alleged health effects were bound to not discuss any injuries or health effects with anyone including researchers and survey takers.

There exists much more information that I won't belabor here, but I consider this video and your post #licktheshaft level biased toward favoring nuclear power interests, minimizing and omitting facts about the actual event itself and suggesting the faulty and conflicting public information releases make the real story as opposed to the actual radiation releases.

Lessons learned from the SL-1 prototype reactor incident decades earlier like the operator's own fat belly obscuring critical warning lights were NOT incorporated into the control center of the commercial TMI plant, with critical indicators found afterward covered by maintenance tags hanging from other elements, and other critical indicators strangely located on the rear side of the 7 foot tall control panel. In addition to these hardware flaws, the plant's operation was placed into the hands of entire crews of people whose understanding of the functions of the system was inadequate to understand and correctly respond to the developing emergency, beyond rote trained and limited procedure lists and flowcharts.

Like I said, I am interested in and intrigued by the potential of nuclear energy and not a knee-jerk opposer, but find the track record of human performance appallingly inadequate for the safe operation of nuclear plants. I don't really believe in "luck" but the fact humanity has "only" had three major commercial power plant disasters can't get fully attributed to good planning and operation.