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I looked back, holy shaite, one guy was smiling like a dufus giving me the thumbs up, two other guys were shaking their heads in disapproval, some old lady just wanted to get her pasta already. And I was like "damn, i'm such a retard".
Thats hilarious. Later this will just be empowering. Most guys cant dream of doing day game
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5 is pretty slow, I hope you weren't paying.
kiss
5 dates with no kiss is VERY slow.
Kissing is second date AT THE LATEST.
I tried escalating 2 more times but she said she just wanted to talk.
This girl does not find you attractive.
I was completely pissed and she left soon after. When I got home I sent her a text trying to keep things alive for the future saying I had a good time.
why?
She responded with a long text saying that I was rushing, didn't care about her feelings, etc.
Rightttttttttttt.
Ok, this is beta bait. "Kissing on 5th date = rushing" means she DOES NOT WANT YOU. Sorry. It sucks. But it's true and it's best you understand the lies.
I told her that I did care about her (lie) but just couldn't help myself. We agreed to talk tomorrow, which is today. What did I do wrong?
No attraction.
If you're paying for dates then you are motivating her to lie to you.
You simply need to filter out women who are not into you. You kiss them. If they're not into it then you NEXT them. It isn't about doing things right or wrong..... if she's not into you then it's not viable to be with her.
I might have escalated too quickly on the night and not built enough comfort.
Ah, no.
LMR is when you're trying to fuck her. This is not kissing you AFTER FIVE DATES.
Do you think that this situation is salvageable?
Yes. You salvage this by fucking OTHER WOMEN who actually want you.
I think that it's salvageable but it will take me a lot of time to earn back her trust and get the lay.
Get the lay??? Dude, she doesn't even want to kiss you.
Read MoreI had 3 sets of girls, I failed every one of them
Try not to think of this as success/fail. You're approaching, with intent, but it's all a game and it's all part of being sociable. Don't pressure yourself with lay/fail thinking.
"No, just no"
haha funny girl......
Tbh, when I approached them, they were slouched, looking down, maybe they were annoyed, angry, depressed or just drunk.
Avoid the miserable ones - they're miserable for a reason. "I'll cheer up the miserable girl" doesn't work..... don't waste your time with them. Find the fun ones and give them even more fun.
Hey "random female name" I know you. Basically I pick a name then I talk to her like I know her, "are you her", "wdyd here".
Look, you're talking to girls and that's most of the battle. But this is a terrible opener - you know it, they know it.
t, a chick which really liked me would just smile and answer "yes that's me".
I doubt it. No girl wants to admit to a wrong name, no matter how much she likes you.
Another issue here: if you're middling on looks, you have to be attractive in other ways. That works, you can do that, but you also have an admittedly terrible opener. So...... average looks, terrible opener..... Why would she want to talk to you?
If you're middling on looks, learn some great openers and learn how to open and chat to people with skill, smoothness, audacity and charm. You're going to have to smooth things with her for long enough for your great qualities to show through....... average looks plus "shitty opener to find out if she likes me" isn't doing you any favours here.
Read MoreShould Í approach everyone who is exhibiting strong IOI's?
If they're attractive.
At some point you increase quality over quantity
her telling me she's never done this before
It's great when you meet a girl with a great sense of humour
@diyar it's good that you're working to overcome your obstacles. Keep at it.