@Typo-MAGAshiv I broadly agree but think foreign aid can have two useful functions. One is as a bribe to a country in return for access to trade terms or resources or as a reward for past service to keep an ally loyal. The other is simply humanitarian in the case of great and unplanned for disaster. Both these things can help a country that gives aid to maintain influence and a good image.

However where we are at the moment is just a sort of Christian inspired self loathing where the west assumes it is its duty to be a cuck and pay to raise up other countries who despise it and its principles -because its the right thing to do. Fuck that. Its the wrong thing to do.

@odaklanan_insan dude seems pretty based.

I feel the same way about American lives vs foreigners.

We need to understand that almost everyone in the world feels that way about their own, except we westerners have been brainwashed to have suicidal empathy, pathological altruism, whatever you want to call it. The rest of the world uses it against us to exploit us and slowly conquer us. Hence the demographic ruin in much of Europe, and that invasion in Spain yesterday.

I wanted to ask y'all how common is this type of ideology among Israelis?

Israelis aren't a monolith. Ever watched their parliament?

A lot of US resources go into supporting Israel

I'm personally in favor of ending all foreign aid. The rest of the world needs to learn to fend for itself for a change.

@Typo-MAGAshiv I personally prefer treating people according to their character. If someone works for their shit and respect the laws, I don't mind them really.

I don't feel like standing up for someone solely based on our kinship yet alone go on a path of revenge for them. Even the siblings from the same parents often don't end up the same in life.

I simply draw my borders around a certain zone of morals, character and reliability rather than shared nationality and culture.

Not sure where you stand on this, but to each their own. I don't judge. That incident in Spain is crazy though. I don't think that's okay at all.

@Bozza The stuff I read in this report is unbelievable! Has anyone done some fact-checking on these?

@adam-l Good point about it being a short term strategy, one consistently employed in other areas. Look at the national debt in the U.S. and UK. These people are enriching themselves now while saying to hell with future generations. If some calamity strikes in 25 years, countries won't have the flexibility to deal with it via issuance of debt. Leaders used to care about such things.

@SeasonedRP

Yes, that's the rationale, but on a more fundamental level it unravels the population's sense of belonging and their motivation. It's a psychopathic, greedy, fast, short term strategy, a phase that we can probably identify in the collapse of all the empires of the past.

@adam-l It's rational. Rational egoism. If lower class women aren't reproducing, they are in the work force putting downward pressure on wages. Because the desire for downward pressure on wages is insatiable, immigrants are imported. This has the additional benefit, to the elites, of dividing the population and making it easier to control.

@Typo-MAGAshiv It's all connected, though. The elite are destroying the capacity of their own lower classes to reproduce, not because it's a rational thing, but because opposition to them has vanished (and the single biggest reason is that they managed to turn the Left from a working class orientation to "rights of the minorities" and gender issues) - and they are bringing in immigrants as a precarious underclass to take the lower tier jobs. It's a recipe for disaster.

@adam-l one problem at a time

First, the UK and the rest of Western Civilization needs to expel Muslims, whose religious writings teach that it's OK to treat non-Muslims that way.

After that, we can address those other issues. Those can't be fixed while the invaders are raping, pillaging, burning, destroying, etc.