@Stigma

I don’t want to inundate this topic with tangential examples but I do want to drive the point home about short term moral virtues with long term societal decay as it is the central premise of my argument. I’ll de-tether this reply from the thread but post it anyway:

Leftist virtue believes that allowing 250 migrants into a free show will enrich the migrants and give them warm fluffy feelings.

Reality: a French cultural theatre faces bankruptcy because the immigrants won’t leave.

What looks good and makes you feel good is not necessarily what is good.

That is a simple equation that progressives and liberals are unable to compute. It is the framework that you can put on every example of their world view.

Imagine giving people that think like that an entire state to control and expecting anything other than destruction and death!

The LA wildfires are literally reaping what they have sown.

I don’t want to inundate this topic with tangential examples but I do want to drive the point home about short term moral virtues with long term societal decay as it is the central premise of my argument. I’ll de-tether this reply from the thread but post it anyway:

Leftist virtue believes that allowing 250 migrants into a free show will enrich the migrants and give them warm fluffy feelings.

Reality: a French cultural theatre faces bankruptcy because the immigrants won’t leave.

What looks good and makes you feel good is not necessarily what is good.

That is a simple equation that progressives and liberals are unable to compute. It is the framework that you can put on every example of their world view.

Imagine giving people that think like that an entire state to control and expecting anything other than destruction and death!

The LA wildfires are literally reaping what they have sown.

@mentORPHEUS Here’s another microcosm of what I’m talking about playing out.

Morally righteous leftist activists curtail the main recruitment pool for the RAF. The leftists believe they are doing the right thing, hell, maybe you think they’re doing the right thing too. Their worldview permits them to:

• Cut off employment for prospective students, engineers, pilots, computer scientists etc

• Deplete the RAF of talented staff, and therefore the RAFs ability to effectively operate.

Well let’s play that out somewhat. With a war in Europe and other potential conflicts breaking out on the horizon it would be very counter intuitive to weaken ourselves in such a way, right? What happens to Britain if they lose air superiority if a conflict was to break out?

What of the leftists that were, as with the LA fires, a secondary cause in the decline of the society that they felt they had the morally correct framework for? They gamble their society on the basis they have saved some irrelevant backwater from being bombed, which itself is a performative abstraction of their ephemeral virtues.

Do we need to speculate who or what the leftists would blame, in lieu of themselves, should this all come to pass?

@MentORPHEUS

There’s two replies to redpillschool’s discussion starter, three including yours. Both I believe contain enough substance to carry on the discussion of the fire in various directions. Again, from a higher resolution.

Do you understand what I’m conveying when I say that there are long term secondary problems that have made for a ruinous society? I really do believe it’s an important point to uncover.

There may be some or even a lot of environmental factors that amplified the seriousness of the fire, but the obvious neglect and incompetence, short sightedness and abdication of responsibility are too stark to ignore in how they have compounded the problems.

It isn’t that they are gay, but their cultural and ideological obsessions about being gay take precedence at every point in decision making.

Again, please attempt to take the abstract from that paragraph as something akin to distraction on a basic level and blameless on a more complicated level. If the people in charge in LA believe they are solely working on the moral framework of being good (DEI), how can they be responsible for anything bad?

Do you see it yet?