@Typo-MAGAshiv @Prvttyboyyy

You might be able to pull her back into your frame

asked to take MY weed to smoke with her track male teammate which she claims is just a friend

It sounds she wanted to cuck him or she did in her head or already did and asked about it post fact.

LISTEN to www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JIX1tLb9Rg

No work on her after this. Its gives a false hope. Even what Ill say will give you a false hope. Let her be your fuck toy, she has to work for it, fuck her friends and she needs to be the one bringing them along.

All the normal stuff she wants to do now are like shit test.

#how much will he agree to, after I've cucked him (or have proven I could)

Anything nice or normal youll do, you are digging yourself a deeper grave.

help with the rent

At this point its a bait only

We broke up,

She was looking for a reason? You don't give age. But looks like she is <25, sportwoman, more testosterone and have more urges than an average woman surrounded by the athletes.

I ve mentioned few things you have noticed yourself, but you have a mash in your head apparently. No you are not wrong, it bad place to be in.

@bjorn

need guidance

I messed up a great relationship with a girl I managed to date, who’s honestly way out of my league.

She looks just like Brooke Shields when she was young (I've lost track of how many times strangers have commented on it in malls and restaurants), from an old money family—think golf courses, country clubs, horseback riding, and sailing. She’s living off a six-figure annuity thanks to her family, working just for fun, mainly teaching lessons to kids in various things that she spent her childhood taking lessons in.

I have no game but I am 6'4 and have good financial success. I never think much about what to say to women or how to act. I just do what I feel like. Before dating her, I’d say I was just average with women—not terrible, but not great either. Most of my interactions happened through social circles or women approaching me. I’ve had my share of attractive dates, but usually they were attractive in a vulgar way. Nothing like my LTR. She is so beautiful everybody stares at her everywhere we go. She is so beautiful I could barely think a coherent thought or string together a sentence without stuttering for first few times we meet. I did not game her I only asked her for a date and after few dates asked her to be my girlfriend and for some lucky reason she agreed. I honestly didn’t think I had a shot.

She's so nice, so light-hearted, happy, soft spoken also, not crazy, not causing problems like other women I dealt with in the past. Her family treats me well, and her friends are classy.

For work, I sometimes have to head out to sea for long stretches, which complicates relationships since I can’t always stay in touch. I ended up at sea for eight months. When we stopped in a foreign port, I got drunk with my crew, and a cheap girl made a move on me. The first time, I turned her down, telling her I was in a relationship. But after so long without female company, I gave in and slept with her. I convinced myself it didn’t matter because my girlfriend was out of my league and probably moving on without me. I had been away for work for more months than we had spent together. Looking back, that was a stupid excuse.

When I got back, I found out my girlfriend hadn’t given up on us; she was still holding out for my return. A few months later, we faced an accidental pregnancy, but she was happy about it and looking forward to having the baby and yes it was a real pregnancy and mine. I have had crazy women before lie and pretend to be pregnant, but I went to her dating sonograph and saw the sonograph of the baby and the dates lined up to when we were having sex.

She ended up miscarrying, which devastated her. To make things worse, the girl I hooked up with while away tracked me down through social media and claimed she was pregnant. There was no way it could be mine—the timing didn’t match up, and I knew she had been with other guys from my crew. It wasn’t the first time a woman had tried to pin something like that on me; it’s happened to friends too. What is wrong with these women?

The timing couldn’t have been worse. My girlfriend had her miscarriage on a Wednesday, and this other girl showed up in person to confront me the following Saturday. I can't believe the girl came in person. My girlfriend physically assaulted the girl - rather severely - got taken to the police and was going to be charged with assault. This is a girl who is calm, reserved, from a good family, not violent, it was very out of character. Her family convinced the girl to drop the charges. Her brother is a lawyer.

I made it clear to the cheap girl that I wanted nothing to do with her—she was just a mistake and a distraction. I begged my girl not to leave me, promising I’d do anything to make it right. She did not even argue with me, she did not get vindictive, all she did was cry a lot and then told me that she never wants to see me again. Then she just ignored all my calls, my messages, and completely cut me out of her life.

I am supposed go to Norway for a while, and after realizing I was getting nowhere with her, I decided to stop by her place one last time. After nearly three months of silence, she actually came out to see me, but didn’t let me inside. I got down on my knees and pleaded with her not to leave me, nearly in tears—yeah, I know, pretty pathetic. She said she and her family would be gone for a few days, and when she returns, we can talk. I told her that I am supposed to go to Norway, but I would cancel just to be with her. Then she asked me - Bjorn, are you going to stop going on long voyages now? - and I told her that yes, I will stop, and I will stay here. We set a date and time to meet and talk.

Now I’m wondering how to approach this meeting. Does her question about my traveling mean she’s considering taking me back? Why would she care if I stop going away? I also realized she never officially broke things off—she just ignored me for three months, and I assumed it was over.

I know this sounds like oneitis, but it doesn’t come from a place of scarcity. My past experiences have shown me that she’s genuinely superior to other girls and someone good for me.

How should I act when we finally meet? I’ve been pretty beta in my previous attempts, but given everything that’s happened, should I keep begging for forgiveness? She refused to talk with me for three months, and it was when I was at my most vulnerable that she agreed to meet. Should I consider getting her an expensive gift? Would offering to try for another baby help her feel better about the miscarriage or just remind her of the loss and make her feel worse? I am stressing hard – I don't know how to act – I feel like this is my only chance.

You two were banging bareback, so while knocking her up wasn't your intent, the resulting pregnancy was more unwanted then 'accidental'. It's clear that you're either lazy regarding discipline on condom use, one of those guys still stupid enough to believe a female when she claims to be on birth control, or you've zero f&%k$ to give. Either way, I'm not going to waste time asking any probing questions. The sad truth is your girlfriend likely had an abortion before you knocked her up, that's why she had the miscarriage. If she's as hot as Brooks Shields was in her prime, and into horseback riding then you're not the only male stud she been riding at any time. Unfortunately, she's likely as undisciplined with her fertility as you are with your virility. If she doesn't get scrapped out again, she should be able to bring the next baby she's knocked up with to term. Whenever you're stateside, hit up the free clinics, and raid the condom bowls. That's what they're there for, so use them.

Regardless, you'll get more return from the book I'm about to recommend than any actual advice I or anyone else would otherwise provide. The next time you're on one of your long sea journey's consider investing into a reliable ready reference you can pick up and study to better prepare yourself for engaging the opposite sex. I'd suggest that you get yourself a copy of Doc Love's "The System: The Dating Dictionary". Doc Love, who until his passing was also known as Tom Hodges, wrote a weekly advice column that's archive is mirrored on several mens focused sites and a podcast. His media is a bit pricey, but it's a solid foundation a guy can branch out from in RP aware circles. I'd suggest you review his advice column to decide if his view on dating and relationships is aligned with what you aspire for yourself. To save yourself a search, give this scribed link a gander to find out if his book is something you'd like to add to your library. It should also be available on libgen and other free book websites.

@ChadifiedAsian

Establishing a Relationship with Women - N Count

I'm at a point in my life where I would want to start a family and meet the right woman. One of my plates that I've been seeing for about 6 months treats me like a god. She naturally just does everything for me. She's been pressuring me for commitment / establishing exclusivity since month 1, but I of course haven't given it to her. She's asked me for this multiple times to commit after this point, but around month 4, I asked her to give me time and she agreed. I can see it affects her, but I still want to vet her longer before fully committing. She has already told me she loves me, I have not reciprocated.

My biggest fear / hesitation is not knowing about her sexual past. I know she had a long term relationship of 6 years (she's 25 now), but that's about it (for reference, I'm 30). I've tried to casually scope it, but I still don't have a clear idea. When it comes up, she remarks that she knows I have more experience than she does (because of how I fuck), but I also don't want to forthright ask her for her n-count since she can obviously lie and I think she gets the sense that I would never be exclusive with a hoe, which of course gives her more incentive to lie.

Everything about her (so far) is positive. I can see this progressing, but I don't want to marry a slut, regardless of how she treats me now.

Any insight? Thanks.

Pair Bonding facts. Statistics show that females with more than 12 prior sexual partners should never be trusted for legal marriage.

@Prvttyboyyy

Possible to get over oneitis while maintaining relationship

Yes. Married guys do it all the time when they unplug. This isn't necessarily applicable to your situation.

We broke up, and shortly later she comes to me and says she wants to work things out.

Rarely a good idea.

Yet another guy who needs to read Rollo's Rooting Through Garbage.

The way she treated me did a 180, until it didn’t. I went through, voluntarily and regrettably got rid of all my women, gave her access to my phone, etc. to placate her [emphasis added]

You made yourself subservient to her, which over time will make you absolutely repulsive to her.

asked to take MY weed to smoke with her track male teammate which she claims is just a friend

Biz Markie on the subject of "Just a Friend": youtu.be/9aofoBrFNdg?si=Eppr7HLOH9fEQ-vL

I bought a house and she’s wanting to move in with me

Terrible idea, given everything else you've said.

Terrible idea 99% of the time, but especially given what you've said.

I’ve quit hanging with friends, seeing other people and being social overall

You've surrendered your very self.

You are also making yourself repulsive to her.

This is probably doomed, and you haven't given any good reason it's worth salvaging. You aren't married, and you don't have kids together. Why not just replace her?

Anyway, by the very nature of some of the stuff you've said and the questions you've asked, I can tell you haven't read the sidebars at TRP or MRP. I recommend reading both of them. Digest what you read, and implement slowly.

You might be able to pull her back into your frame. You might decide she isn't worth the effort, send her packing, and go back to spinning plates. Time will tell.

Possible to get over oneitis while maintaining relationship?

Classic problem - amazing girlfriend, she’s an athlete, smoking hot, very type A. Didn’t get exclusive too fast, had my plates and life was good. Eventually though, she got me and we decided to go exclusive, two months in though she found out I had cheated on her with another woman while my girlfriend was visiting home. We broke up, and shortly later she comes to me and says she wants to work things out. The way she treated me did a 180, until it didn’t. I went through, voluntarily and regrettably got rid of all my women, gave her access to my phone, etc. to placate her. Things were fine for awhile, but things have gotten boring, she’s wanting to goto bars with her teammates and then asked to take MY weed to smoke with her track male teammate which she claims is just a friend. Don’t think she’s done anything, but can’t help but feeling like this isn’t for me sometimes. I bought a house and she’s wanting to move in with me and help with the rent and everything, which is fine, but since this relationship I’ve quit hanging with friends, seeing other people and being social overall to help her with her fears. Is this saveable? Should I just end it, or is this something I can fix?

@Kloi

Accept Her Offerings

It dawned on me I fumbled last night with my girl.

Made the comment my nails needed to be cut and filed, she told me to grab the stuff and she'd do it. I just laughed.

Later she said my eyebrows needed to be cleaned up. Told me to go grab tweezers and she'd happily do it for me. At this one I was a little offended.

It wasn't until this morning I realized I dropped the ball and have had an aversion to offers like these in the past. Something about my ego tells me no I shouldn't allow me to do these small little tasks. An aversion to being pampered but why not let her?

She would feel happiness in serving me in these small little ways and I must confess this is the first woman I've let style my hair for an event and it felt quite nice, sitting there, having her comb it out, put in product and style it.

It brought her joy and me comfort and I can't for the life of my e understand why I've always turned down offers of such nature in the past.

It happens, I guess, but I honestly wouldn't be surprised that there's a history behind your discomfort with female gestures of kindness. Something to make a note of to share with a therapist you trust. However, unless your girlfriend's cringing when you come in for a kiss, I doubt she thinks you're ugly. You probably had bad breath, so pop a mint. I'll admit that I'm not daring enough to get either a manicure of a pedicure. I'm just not comfortable with sharp implements being above the palms of my appendages. I'm also not interested in risking an infection just to remove my cuticles.

@TheNewNormal

Secured a good career at 22, how to get in the field?

22 year old here living in SEA, been in monk mode since almost two years now. Did engineering from a top college, now joining a service that will propel me into the top 0.1% of my country in terms of both money and status in society.

The issue is, it wasn't a complete monk mode, it was more of involuntary celibacy and only studying. I am still an underweight guy who started the gym this week (4 days weightlifting, 3 days running), started learning quick chicken recipes etc.

In these two years, I read many posts of TRP but have forgotten them over time. Morevoer, most of them were related to monk mode instead of dating, shit tests, teasing, kino etc. I had two serious relationships but never escalated beyond oral so I am also looking for reading material on bedroom skills.

I have observed on my interaction with women (completely online or on dating apps), that I am able to talk to them on text and they get impressed but I am not able to do anything offline, I kinda give up before I meet them offline probably because of anxiety or because I don't really know what to do in a dating setting. Moreover, I am joining the military so I don't want long term relationship but the moment girls find out about my career, they start pushing for a serious relationship and commitment or maybe they see me as a nice guy to settle down with when I just want to get laid like a warlord before I leave for my training.

So, I am looking for advice on what to read about women psychology, teasing, shit tests, escalating, frame, being better in the bedroom etc. while I am building muscle simultaneously to max out my SMV. I have a printed PDF of the sidebar, should I read it cover to cover? Or should I read some posts or order books like NMMNG, She Comes First, The Rational Male?

There are plenty of #books to read to help educate yourself on the topics you're asking about. Did you gain anything from the ones suggested by us here several months ago? Also, something to consider, while we can suggest plenty of books for others to read, the questions you should ask yourself is do you possess enough prior experience to grasp the information those books may provide and are we making our recommendations out of sincerity, or passive disinterest?

@az01209

GF Seems Strangely Distant

What's up TRP.

For some context, I'm (29M) in a LTR (only one month so far) with my gf (31F). We got into a relationship really fast (I know, don't give me shit), and already tell each other we love each other, etc. Mostly, it is genuine.

In the beginning of the relationship, I asked her what she liked about me and she went on listing things about how I made her feel, e.g. "you take care of me," "you reply fast," "you don't leave me." Knowing what I know, this shit was like knives thrown to the heart. Anyway, it was a red flag because she mentioned close to nothing about what she likes about me as a person, until after I complained about it of course. There were a couple other similar indications of this type of feeling in her, but they were just small things, so I let it slide.

As far as other issues go, she seems strangely selfish for a woman. Some things she will do without thinking of me at all, but perhaps it's a cultural barrier (she's from a SE Asian country). Even during sex, she will grab my hand and press it against her breasts or on her ass, wherever she wants. I'll admit I don't like this, but it's weird to see her being so...selfish? I'm not sure if all these behaviors are related or not.

I've been in love a few times, but I definitely don't feel like this one is 'obsessed' with me, as the other ones were. I'll admit, when I met her I was being a beta boy and I had lost touch with the RP teachings for some time beforehand.

Now, a few days ago, we had a terrible fight (about fighting, or something else very stupid), where she just broke up with me after I told her that she had some qualities I wouldn't want in a wife, and that we needed to work on fixing some stuff, something along those lines. Our fights can get quite bad, and I'll admit that it is mostly from my side. So, she packed up all her stuff from my house and left that day. I couldn't believe it. But then she went posting songs lyrics and stuff on her IG stories, so I texted her the next day to ask if it was really over.

Long story short we got back together, but we still haven't seen each other in person since that day we broke up (a couple days ago). She said she's on her period, and she just wants to rest for a week. Truth be told, she does have more issues with her period (extra painful, messed up hormones) than normal girls, but she says she's afraid that if she comes to see me she will make a bad decision or we will fight more and she can't deal with it right now. She lives about 30-45 minutes away, and she said that if I come drive to her she will see me but if not I have to wait a week.

Now this sets off all kinds of alarms in me. I know when a girl is in love with you she will drive 1,000 miles to see you, period or not. She keeps telling me she doesn't love me less, that she just needs to rest.

But I guess I'm just not buying it. And my intuition is telling me that perhaps it is not me that she loves at all, but rather the way I make her feel. But the other voice in my head comes in and says maybe she's different, and all that.

My question to TRP is: Is my intuition valid? Am I just paranoid? I feel like I am trapped in the beta frame with her, and she does some disrespectful stuff sometimes; minor things like rolling her eyes at me in a certain way, or telling me a flat no when I ask her to do something basic like clean something, but still noticeable to me.

Should I next her? I feel like I love her and that I am fucked.

Honestly, it reads like you two had your chance, gave it a go, but it didn't work out. Her flip-flopping psychotic behavior ending things may pan out to be a blessing in disguise in the least expected way. While I think you should just move on, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if you disregard any advice you're given and simply follow-though in getting back together until she loses interest in you again. If that's the path you ultimately take, continue using condoms while having sex, so that when the time comes that she ends things with you, you can just put her on block from your contact points, let the break-up momentum carry you away, and move on with your life.

Beyond that, consider investing into a reliable ready reference you can pick up and study to better prepare yourself for engaging the opposite sex. I'd suggest that you get yourself a copy of Doc Love's "The System: The Dating Dictionary". Doc Love, who until his passing was also known as Tom Hodges, wrote a weekly advice column that's archive is mirrored on several mens focused sites and a podcast. His media is a bit pricey, but it's a solid foundation a guy can branch out from in RP aware circles. I'd suggest you review his advice column to decide if his view on dating and relationships is aligned with what you aspire for yourself. To save yourself a search, give this scribed link a gander to find out if his book is something you'd like to add to your library. It should also be available on libgen.