@Musicgoon78

No one lives forever, so try things. Make mistakes. Experience joy and create stories.

I see too many guys afraid to live. That's not me.

I agree but with caveats. First off, like Typo above I'm personally not into the sex party and orgy scene, but I do take a "Whatever creams your twinkie!" stance if that's what others want to do.

What I will offer to this convo was my own "Red Pilling too close to the sun" experience. After decades as an AFC who had pedestalized women, using Red Pill knowledge I hit a real stride in my upper 40s. Started seeing multiple women on the side while having a really nice and intelligent (but not very hot body wise) main GF.

There came the day when I was leaving my work for a day trip with a plate. My main GF came pulling in my parking lot and saw us. I went over and had a brief convo wherein she rightfully broke up with me on the spot. I'll never forget how absolutely crushed she looked. Like a proper Chad, I went through with the day trip as planned with the plate, playing the interruption off like it was nothing. But, after that day was over, I ended up letting all the plates drop haphazardly and really thought through my ideals and intentions.

In retrospect years later now, yes it was a blast while it lasted. I really did make up for lost time and fucking during all those AFC decades, and sowed the FUCK out of my wild oats before getting "too old" for wild sex games. But, my love life from that point forward was much more calm, rational, and I will say, sane.

@Musicgoon78 Sometimes I feel like when I use this approach, it is like I am moving so fast that I don't know how to follow up. I recently did this on my bowling team where I bowl with a girl in her 20s, a 30s year old, and a 50s year old girl. I had gotten the conversation into all of them talking about how life is all about finding that next nut. That it is hard to even get a girl to orgasm, so when you guys find it, it is extra important to keep around. And that I was a good at finding that nut. Nut being the joke word because it segwayed from a cashew comment.

Then I didn't know how to follow up. I had three girls attention all the way up to this nut thing. What do I say after that? All 3 of you should come to my place and see what this whole next thing is about! I really only wanted the young one, who I hit on day one and she told me she had a boyfriend. Now I am not sure if she is lying about it because she has yet to tell one story about this "boyfriend."

I have gotten fantastically better with my issues of escalation anxiety when I first started redpilling back in 2017. But when I use this hard and fast approach, I get it again because I think I am scared of succeeding so fast. I think I want it to be a little bit slower.

@Musicgoon78 I am definitely curious to the idea. I don't want to bang old broads though. My taste is young girls. However, I have tried the living with a girl for 10 years together route, she aborted my kid behind my back, so I didn't have any kids or marriage from that one.

I tried having a few girls, I had three at one point. It was fun but my personal life was still shit even though I did feel cool fuckin a few different girls, so I moved to a new city after that. Then when I was in the worst of my alcoholic years, I was messing around with my good drinking friend's girlfriend for 3 years. He would always drink too much, too fast, and pass out. Me and his girl would have fun 2 feet from him being asleep. Then I tried to get the perfect beautiful rich young angel girlfriend. This was my best relationship thus far although she walked out never to speak to me again after two years of amazing sex and minimal maintenance.

Now today, I have no women. I was working on a couple girls but in the back of mind, I didn't really want them that badly. I wanted to use them to forget the last girl. Then my mind would tell me that I would just end up having to buy them dinners and listen to their boring lives real soon, that I don't even know how to set up seeing a girl without a diner date or going to the bar. I gave up the booze, so i don't get girls at the bar anymore which used to be my main spot. I dont want to pay for them anymore, I dont want to take them on dates anymore.

I say all this to give background on my current situation and describe that I have tried a lot of different roles with women, some leaving scars behind. That the idea of having multiple girls at the same time sounds fun, sounds like it could be situation that teaches me something about myself. I also feel like with this last girl, that I have lost any hope of trying to have one girl be my girlfriend. That it just isn't possible. Even though I like having just one main girl, that it will lead me right back to where I am today. When I had three girls it was cool, but I was using them as a drug and not focusing on getting my money right which is my true dream right now.

I need to get a new paradigm with women... yet again.