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Read More17h ago WhereAreAllTheGoodMen
Everyone is at a different point of their journey, and everyone has different issues, so I try to not be critical of what anyone else is doing to get stronger.
This is the main reason I don't set up a home gym; where else do you find a group of strangers coming together in one singular place, actively trying to improve themselves?
I harness energy from those really pushing themselves around me, to give me a little extra get up and go.
Stop and talk to people doing unfamiliar exercises to educate myself.
Scope out other people's form to better critique mine.
@lurkerhasarisen dude, dot red bylaws and shit.
You have to include the rocks saying "oooooh" when you make a "your mom" joke
Especially a good one like that
I’m counting the leg curl machine as a machine (it’s right there in the name)
Huh. I always heard it called "leg curl station", but whatevs.
the motion is entirely dictated by the movement of the hinge
It's still a simple hinge, rather than a pulley or anything else that does all the work for you.
The other ones only work the extension of the hamstrings. The leg curl apparatus works the contraction side.
Noob.
More like, guy who hasn't read up on this shit or even trained seriously in forever.
I don't remember which exercise does exactly what, but I do know I have satisfactorily trained my hamstrings from 1994 until 2010 using no machines (unless you count a leg curl station).
Caveat: there was a brief period in 2007-2008 in which I over-trained my quads, and hurt my hamstrings as a result.
Read MoreI’m counting the leg curl machine as a machine (it’s right there in the name), because the motion is entirely dictated by the movement of the hinge. The other ones only work the extension of the hamstrings. The leg curl apparatus works the contraction side.
Noob.
@lurkerhasarisen you're an exception. Generally speaking, machines suck. They force bad form.
Plus, there are some muscles you just can’t work using free weights. Hamstrings, for instance.
Deadlifts. RDLs. Sumo squats . Leg curls (simple hinge doesn't do the work for you, so isn't what I'd consider a "machine"). Lunges. All the variations on DLs and lunges.
Everyone is at a different point of their journey,
Have you got any good resource on machines?
Just yesterday found out I better quit all stuff that makes me to hold my breath. Being all free weights with decent weight on a barbell.
I use a mix of free weights and machines even now. Everyone is at a different point of their journey, and everyone has different issues, so I try to not be critical of what anyone else is doing to get stronger. A person using only machines with a couple of plates three days a week is still doing more than 80% of the population.
I prefer machines for most of my upper body work because I have wonky shoulder joints, so if my form isn’t nearly perfect for some lifts I run the risk of seriously injuring myself. If I get weight over my head and my humerus starts to pop out unexpectedly (which happens more often than you’d think even at relatively low weights) it becomes impossible to maintain proper form. I’m much safer being on a machine that allows me to safely release the load than with a bar that I have to maintain control over all the way to the floor.
I’ve never had a full separation at the GHJ, but that’s because I make a point of not getting into positions where I have to choose between dropping a bunch of iron on my head or ripping a major tendon. When I feel the joint start to slip I know to stop pushing.
Plus, there are some muscles you just can’t work using free weights. Hamstrings, for instance.
Read More1d ago WhereAreAllTheGoodMen
There's a few reasons I have people jump on machines first. Forum is somewhat forced on you to be semi correct, allowing you to focus more on keeping a tight core and lowering the weight in a controlled manner. It's easier for noobs and helps create a foundation to build off of.
Safer to push your max reps, especially if you don't have a spotter.
Typically only run machines for four weeks before transitioning over.
They serve their purpose.