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@SwarmShawarma Sound point.
But no.
Look, I really liked her but then...
The "traditional" thing started rearing it's head
She started getting shitty on our date because I didn't pay - "Men are supposed to pay". Frame control brought that in line.
Next date - Oh I've got an infection. Between then we facetimed. She spoke about maybe my condoms might have caused it. "You should throw away your condoms" Why - Frame control sorted this out - but "Oh you're seeing me, why do you need sex?"
In that conversation she said "Can we not have sex?" - Jokingly. "Shall we be celibate?"
But this was the red flag.
I booked another date with her. Bowling. Day of, she says she's having "Issues"/infection etc. Whatever, Bowling is cool.
We go Bowling. Good Date. No Sex.
She's aggressive as anything. Almost called the date off. I arrived late (my mistake) she moans about that. Moans about me vaping. Moans about everything.
At this point im almost like - fuck off. I can;t deal with women moaning when I'm with them, why would I deal with you?
We go bowling, it's good.
Friday. I'm with plate #1
She calls. I Ignore.
I come home the next day. she gets aggy - "Why u no respond"?
Evening, she talks to me, can we facetime. Sure? We facteime. She's sat in the dark. Aggy as hell. "I've got an infection". Wat did the doctors say - they gave me medication.
So shes blown this up wayyyyy beyond needed.
We have a conversation, at the end she says:
"This has put me off sex with protection"
Sure
"And... sex without protection"
"Is it okay if we dont have sex at all?"
Until when...
"I dont know. until I feel comfortable
NO.
I dont mind waiting a little while. But if you thinking I'm paying for dates, doing all of that for no sex - no.
Bearing in mind this girl had slowly and consistently ramped up the "traditional" vibes. "Oh I cant do that"
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No wonder girls are so slutty on Halloween
@deeplydisturbed That is pretty much exactly my view on her too.
I probably couldn't stand a single evening in her company even if I didn't have to spend any money but I think my poor friend would probably catch oneitis from a similar dose.
Having the luxury of choice as to one's response to attractive women is one of the few good things about getting older. I do sometimes wonder whether its life experience or homones or both. Presumably older guys who go on TRT actually find out how big the hormone component is.
@Bozza IMO you might be getting to confrontational (especially) over the phone.
Any sort of confrontation should be done face to face.
She is brave maybe sitting with some frenemies and shooting stupid shit on loudspeaker.
Sure you might be caught by surprise but then you can go back anyway.
'Hey again who's calling?!'
'Ah its youuuuu. What sex ,last time Ive seen you you have been playing with a doll'
Pregnancy joke. That is too much. But dumping her on the spot, maybe not.
find out what (who) was behind. Where she was with who. Info for your benefit. Next time you will have anecdote you should be freely sharing with next chick.
'In had this friend and she joked about being preggy, coz Karen thought its funny and she convinced her to do it. Well it wasn't funny, and Karen new she will be in trouble, and she was coz she is not my friend anymore. Karen ofc didn't mention to her she belongs to HPV Obese FEMINISTS anonymous and want her to be alone' .
What more. You don't need any conformation on her part - you can make this stories up on the spot, because they are real anyway and serve as teaching anecdotes to women.
Didn't someone tell you few weeks back" if you are loosing shit too often too early " you need a break?
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I will say this with 100% conviction and full candor and honesty.
If i met this one IRL and by some stroke of karmic voodoo, she invited me back to her hotel, I would NOT take the bait.
In all fairness….
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I am an older man who has had a number of beautiful women in my life, so I am picky. Even at my age. I am spoiled and that’s not a flex - it’s an issue for me.
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My hormones are not what they used to me. So it’s easier to calm my libido.
- Experience has taught me that there would be “work” involved - chitty chatting, saying the right words. For a woman like this, I want about 7 minutes of her shutting the fuck up except for any noises she might make.
Still. She looks pretty.
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Agreed. Sluttiy heroin chic Avril Levine.
Let me add - it wasn't - of ive got a yeast infection lets not have sex for a week or two.
It was "Why can't we date without sex"
- unti when
"I dont know"
yeah... nah
