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@Lone_Ranger OK, I'll take the bait. What on earth is that?
And men are still NOT paying attention.
I think a lot of the younger ones are waking up.
Addendum, @Goingthedistance:
I've been accused already of "you don't ask me questions about me and that's saying something about you being a fuckboy" My reply to that was simply "I only want to know what you are telling me freely without me asking". Was it good was it bad, who knows anymore
You might try "I'd rather talk about that stuff in person. Why don't you meet me [time and place] for [activity (not dinner)] and we can talk about it then?"
But if you're already at the point where she's got expectations built around being pen-pals, then it's likely too late and you've been FriendZoned.
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Yeah i'm not doing friendships with chicks.
Reading between the lines, yes you are. Not on purpose, but you are.
If you aren't escalating towards sex, then you end up FriendZoned.
If you try to escalate from within the FriendZone, the woman feels tricked, deceived.
If you're being accused of being a "fuckboy" by a chick you haven't fucked, it's usually because she feels you were deceiving her in this manner.
However, if you're escalating from the moment you meet and never allow yourself to be put in the FriendZone, then you've been honest about your intentions from the start. You'll either get sex, or get a hard "no". Either way, at least you know where you are.
This playing pen-pals via text thing isn't going to get you laid. Roissy/Heartiste wrote some good shit on text game such as the Golden Ratio and the Jumbotron Rule, but generally texting is only for logistics. None of that "how's your day going?" gay bestie bullshit.
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@deeplydisturbed I have to disagree. True adulthood begins when naivete dies and man discovers his dark side. After that its a choice how you life your life, but matured adult is capable of both good and bad deeds.
So called "suicide" is actually when real you begins. It is that point when you see through and decide to get rid of social and parental conditioning and become who you are really destined to be.
I think of this as of chicken breaking out of its egg.
To me it happened at age of 35. I did not get divorce raped or anything, but general cruelty and reality of world and society killed that naive child in me. And for good.
Also I would like to add, this is more of a mans thing. Women are pretty real naturaly and from early age. At least I suspect so.
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@Goingthedistance Unless you are a fag, what has friendship with most women got to offer anyway? At best they can be good acquaintances with whom you share an interest.
Would you text a man good morning about anything but a shared interest or project or if he was ill? There has to be a reason to text a man and there has to be a reason with women too. You are heading towards banging it is a very good reason but it has to be there. It can take time to get there but it needs to be getting there. T
The trouble with meeting women only as potential mates is that its clear what the game is from the start. So it either goes to sex or it does not but if you want to screen, you have to keep going towards sex to learn more. It makes your screening very pushed for time and limited as she does not want to reveal her weaknesses once she is invested in you. You have to keep inertia in the relationship but if LTR is the game, you will regret going too deep too soon with someone who is not worth a relationship.
Screening is hard to do. Women make poor friends in general for men as they are rarely equal in the things men actually like doing. Ideally one find out about a woman before approaching for a romantic relationship. One screens before the first expression of interest. This means just getting to know a lot of women as acquaintances to avoid fixing on "the one" before you actually find the ideal one to fix on.
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@deeplydisturbed Yeah it does make you lose something you wish you had not lost. Very good observation. Once you have lost it, you can't go back. Women just aren't quite the same, you see that whatever you do, it may not be enough. It just depends how she feels. My lady bitches every week several times that I won't marry her. I tell her "Sorry I am broken. I can't make that mistake again." (It would wipe me out and probably leave me suicidal.)
Remember that when a rich man divorces, he loses millions but he still has millions. He just has less. He still has a house, a car, a pension, enough money to bang young hotties if he wants, enough to go on holiday and so on. When a poor man divorces he becomes a hollowed out shell. A man's heart remains in the empty life of a worker drone. He must work to pay rent and her support money. His house is gone. He won't be taking a foreign holiday again. His pension was enough for one household but now he will have a poor old age. He could only attract a much inferior class of woman than he used to that he would despise himself for having.
The poor working man who built something with love and sweat for his family loses for more in real terms in divorce. His wife may well have stayed home because child care costs were more than her job. So she takes everything as she "sacrificed" for him (cared for her kids just how she wanted to do while he worked hard).
The blue pill traditional working man is as ever the donkey who loses most.
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