Welcome to the next evolution of Where Are All The Good Men.

This tribe and the WAATGM forum are moderated for decorum and the rules that are listed in the side bar. Please be sure to read them.

A couple of information items before you begin or continue your journey down the WAATGM rabbit hole:

--This is the TRP.red tribe for WAATGM. It functions similar to that social media platform with the bird icon on it just without the character limitations. This is where you can drop a simple thought, concept, or question on the community for discussion.

--If you arrived here from the Socialist matrix of fascist censorship known as Reddit, then this site will look a little different, because it is. The WhereAreAllTheGoodMen forum is the site that works similar to the original sub in Reddit. There you may post women's dating profiles and comment on them, just like in the original sub-reddit.

--For those that are new to WAATGM or those that would like to refresh their memories of a particular post, many of the original reddit posts have been archived for safekeeping and may be found here. You may also find the archive link at the bottom of the side bar (on the right ----------->).

--Be sure to check out our baby forum WhereAllTheGoodMenAre. Just like the original, this is where you can submit and comment on essays which addresses the "Where are all the good men?" phenomenon. Personal stories, theories, venting, and even how awesome life is as a MGTOW are all welcomed, but ultimately it is a place to share your male perspective as to why women can't find a "good man", or why good men are avoiding commitment.

@woodsmoke Consider that a little over a century ago, back when women were "oppressed", they were expected to "chase" men much in the same way that PUA Game teaches men today: They networked, learned how to open conversations with men, had a goal towards marriage (not "having fun" or "finding themselves"). Trad-fems would later consider women who were like this as "pick mes" or "desperate". My maternal grandmother back in 1925 had a sister who broke off an engagement so... she grabbed the guy for herself!

This nation of ambivalent and passive-aggressive waiting for men to "wow" them and pass their little tests slowly emerged over the generations. My mother was proud she only gave my father her first and last name and made him look up her phone number if a book. Over time, even "nice" women we regard today were raised to treat men like dogs to perform tricks.

Eff Dee Ess has a point we should pick up on: We need to adopt (reasonable) standards that, by themselves, make us valuable. Men who set standards show leadership that women crave but also raise the bar for how men should be treated. It also means that women who crave men to "lead" (abdicate responsibility) should accept the burden of being a follower: That the man's opinion should be respected by default because he EARNED it.

It's not a paradox to say that men need to lead our way out of this, but that also means we need to hold women to higher standards. Women who have reasonable standards can easily find a decent husband if she puts in a fraction of the work that men do.

@Typo-MAGAshiv

While there's zero evidence that any woman quoted in there is slutty or a single mom or even unreasonable/entitled (it actually reads like a legit lament from their perspective), I think it lends itself well to a discussion of how feminism coupled with affirmative action keeping men down to help women up has led to this situation.

Agreed. We obviously don't want to stray too much from the central theme of the forum but it's useful sometimes to take more of a bird's eye view of things.

There are a lot of (particularly younger) women who haven't been run through by Chad and Tyrone and genuinely believe they want a good guy but, because of the effects of feminism on the wider culture, they either behave in a way that drives good men away without realizing that's what they're doing, or enough damage has been done for most men to conclude the juice and worth the squeeze and they've simply missed the boat due to being born too late to catch it.

It's unfortunate and ain't fair to them, but neither was it fair to all the young men born into a culture that hates and criticizes them simply for being what they are. The state of things ain't these women's fault but it is their responsibility. Men have set about fixing the problem in the only way we reasonably can - by simply walking away and starving the beast women set loose upon us. If women want to hasten that resolution it's on them to put the monster back in its cage.

@polishknight

@polishknight

It's a bit outside what's normally discussed, but I'll allow it

Rule 5, in its entirety, but with what makes this post fit in bold:

Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy".

While there's zero evidence that any woman quoted in there is slutty or a single mom or even unreasonable/entitled (it actually reads like a legit lament from their perspective), I think it lends itself well to a discussion of how feminism coupled with affirmative action keeping men down to help women up has led to this situation.

It therefore fits rule 5, and doesn't have to wait for the weekend.

Side note: the archive.ph link cut off the bottom of the article. I recommend using archive.is instead, or that textise one you linked is fine (though it's preferable to see it with pictures, etc)

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