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@Durek_The_Bald I understand your claim that black pill doesn't seem to acknowledge any mobility. I do think that statement is too rigid. There are strategies in the black pill community that's not typical in the RP community to improving your SMV. One of them is called geo-maxing. AKA moving to another country where the average height is shorter.
The key difference is that black pill's idea's for improving SMV is far more difficult to do, compare to those from the red pill's. The "bar" for sexual conquest is risen so high, most black pill men give up.
I agree it sounds like defeatism when people give up trying.
As to your point that "not everyone will self-improve", there's is an equal force on the other side of the dating market. Not every women is worth dating. So the fewer women are eligible to date, the more fierce the competition between men become. We know the stats, more men between the age of 18-30 are virgins.
The only caveat I would concede is if the only goal is hooking up, then you will be right that improving yourself will get you past that threshold.
I'll like to add for context, I'm actually married and have kids. I don't have a bias to defend black pill ideology to protect my ego.
Read MoreI think we can all agree that our culture in the west has been on a constant decline. As to why, we may have differing opinions. I believe there's many reasons why. Such as women liberation, aka feminism. Communist propaganda. The destruction of religion & family. But I think what hasn't been talked about is the unique role mothers play when raising children. I believe mothers past on traditional values. In the era of neo-Marxism, both mothers and fathers work. Spending less and less time raising their offspring. This allows the state to raise our children. You see an ever more increasingly devious plot to taint the minds of our youth with neo-marxist ideology.
@Durek_The_Bald I agree people should strive to better themselves. I think you missed the point. Even if every man on earth tried their best to improve themselves, because men out number women, there will always be the bottom 5%(?) that will not catch the eye of a women due to hypergamy.
Granted, 5% isn't much. But we know less than 1% of people are transgender, yet they make a lot of noise in our culture.
Black pill isn't too hard to understand. We all agree that women are hypergamous. Women date across and up hierarchy. It goes without saying that there are some men, whatever the % is, will be classified as losers. What %? I don't know. But the group of low quality men do exist. We can tell these men to work on themselves and improve their SMV, but again, hypergamy is at work. So all the self improvement is only doing, is reshuffling which men that are at the bottom. There will always be the bottom %.
Of course, we can argue that the bottom % of men are a small number, and the black pill ideology is trapping some men that aren't at the bottom, but think they are. I agree, this is probably happening on some level.
If we want to delve into a bit of population stats. Did you know, there is roughly 105men:100women? In the past, the #men:#women would equal out due to things like war. But with modern times, the #men are surviving and there is a disparity between the #men:#women. If we assume monogamy, that's roughly 4.76% of men that will never get a girl. This is just a simple assumption, I know dating and marriage is more complex.
But it still shows, there's an over supply of men. It's only justifiable that women choose the top men to date. This is the deepest sense of what the black pill represents, the bottom % of men at a bare minimum.
Read MoreThe rationalization that children are the salvation is simple. Children are in essence, nothing but potential. They start off as babies. In need of constant supervision and provision. They can't even run if a predator was after them. They have no skill. No concept of reality. No purpose other than to live. But that's the beauty. They are full of potential. The potential for both good and evil. When we take a step back and look at a new born child, what we see isn't just a weak and helpless being. We also see the potential for greatness. This child can be the savior of mankind. That's how great the potential is. As the child grows, they restrict that potential to form an identity. This is where parenting comes in. Our job as parents is to guide our children on the right path.
I'll start my first thoughts about the importance of children. I'm from the west, and there's a relentless campaign to denigrate and destroy children. Things like viewing humanity as a cancer, transitioning children, abortion and the destruction of religious morals. I believe children are the salvation to humanity, and that's the reason why there's an attack on children. Destroy the man, destroy the women, and destroy the children. Thus, destroying the family. Familys are the building blocks for society. This is why, it's our duty, to raise children in healthy and loving family.
I came to TRP because I've been banned from a few sub reddits for my ideas. I can't find a particular sub reddit that's inline with my ideas about family, so I figured I'll share then here. Hopefully my thoughts will be recieved in a warmer light here.