@Lionsmane8

Nah, I am talking directly at you and reminding you that you are nothing but pieces of shit that the world is better off without.

Ah the peaceful words of an islamist. Followed by more peaceful rhetoric about being a disease etc etc. Yes well I'm sure you thought that would be very convincing. In reality it's exactly the kind of hateful bile we've come to expect.

Aside from you dissecting me into disparate qualities, one of which you choose to attack openly, and another you choose to deny me so that you can pretend to hold the position of moral superiority. I know what the quran and the talmud think of us Christians, thank you very much.

And all of that only to obfuscate from the top of the thread - islam conducted wars of aggression to expand their caliphates. The existence of dhimmis alone is not evidence of peaceful expansion. You would not argue that israel is peaceful because arabs live in israel.

Your dawa and taqiyya have no power here. Conduct yourself with respectful decorum and rationality.

@Stigma

You're only interested in talking past me.

Nah, I am talking directly at you and reminding you that you are nothing but pieces of shit that the world is better off without.

You've jumped into a thread in which the topic was the Crusades and you've not addressed that at all.

Nah, I gave you a detailed exposé and dissected and addressed each and every one of your points, including the Jizya. You just don't like that. You did not do the same... because you can't.

You've used so many words to say nothing except of your radical hatred of... something.

Oh yeah, hate it is indeed. I was fooled by the veil of the West for most of my formative years. Heck, although I am a Muslim I am more Western that you. I speak 3 Western languages fluently, did most of my schooling in Western Curriculum and in the West, a big chunk of my professional life, my business network, my media, literature and cultural consumption is mostly Western. And then I realized .. . . the West is a piece of shit. The best the West produced are Euthanisia pods that I hope those of you who operate at the same level as you all jump in and rid us of your worthless existence. The West is a net negative on humanity and I can't help but wonder... are you aliens or something?

Why can't you integrate harmoniously with the majority of Humanity? Why can't you even integrate harmoniously with nature? You're one of the most (if not the most) diseased civilization to have walked the earth.. and you know it. The fact that you have stopped reproducing is your DNA subconsciously screaming nah, we don't need to replicate that.

Turns out you're a common rate comedian.

At first I thought the same of you. Deus Veult buffoons are anachronistic gags at best. But then when you understand the mindset behind that ... suddenly it's not funny anymore.

I'll give you the example of al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah and his caliphate, then once you've digested his atrocities why don't you read up about Boko Haram. These are just two in a long, long, long list of islamic persecutors of Christians.

I know of Boko Haram, I don't know of al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah, but I'll read about him. Actually let me help you out, you should have mentioned the atrocities committed by the Ottomans against the Armenians. But you see the difference with you .. . I am not a coward.

I can admit, condemn, even excuse myself and reform. You can't. Haven't seen a Westerner condemn Churchill or King Leopold II. Nah, you exalt your mass murderers and killers, you find excuses for them. And since you can never admit to guilt, since you can never take accountability, since you can never look at the mirror, you've never evolved. You're the same Medieval pieces of shit, but with better (but now broken) PR.

On the topic of Christianity:

Have you noticed that I never attacked Christianity? You know why? Because I distinguish the West (a civilization run by satanic pedophiles) and the Message of Christ. Because you are not Christian. You're nada, you're just a bigot. In my book @carnol03 is a true Christian. And if you look at my exchanges with him you'll notice that they are always cordial, if not humble. Because I have a lot to learn from him.

You on the other hand, you don't embody an drop of what it means to be a Christian. You're the same as those "secular Christians" or "zionist Christian" weirdos. It's either gay Church or "Deus Veult, let's kill the Sarrasins!" retards. Muslims have stood up more for Jesus and for Christianity than you lot of bigots. Seriously look deep inside if you're even capable of introspection. If not, then you'll always find someone like me calling out your bullshit. Seriously fuck off.

@Lionsmane8 You're only interested in talking past me, and with such loaded language. I don't know what to do with you. You've jumped into a thread in which the topic was the Crusades and you've not addressed that at all. You've used so many words to say nothing except of your radical hatred of... something. You only wanted an opportunity to make a sideshow about your grievance politics.

Westoids are the only species on earth that buys into the rationalizations of its evils.

Turns out you're a common rate comedian. I'll give you the example of al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah and his caliphate, then once you've digested his atrocities why don't you read up about Boko Haram. These are just two in a long, long, long list of islamic persecutors of Christians.

I expected little, and I received even less.

@Stigma

So the jizya and the dhimmi I'll address briefly for the audience who may not be familiar. It was a tax on "non-muslims" which for the regions relevant to the top of this thread refer to Christians in Muslim countries. This tax is a protection racket levied on the Christians for them to maintain practicing their faith. Essentially this tax was funding the war and invasion efforts of the Islamic caliphates against other Christians countries. Pope Urban II, realising that the Christian faith was being used to help pay for the caliphate, decided to call for an end to that sort of thing.

See, you did it again, typical western mental gymnastics to justify yet another war and foreign invasion. It is an age old tradition.

"We are defending the Christians of the Orient, WAAAR"

"We are defending Freedom and Democracy, WAAAAAR".

Westoids are the only species on earth that buys into the rationalizations of its evils. The westerner convinces himself of his moral uprightness while simultaneously committing crimes. You're the only mutation of homo sapiens sapiens that believes its cooked up stories about how good and great it supposedly is. In that sense, you are very feminine (self-delusion).

Second, the truth is the truth, whether it comes out of Wikipedia or from a dog's mouth. So your argument here is invalid.

Third, what are you talking about "liberalism" here? What makes you think I subscribe to this diseased typically western thought pattern?

I can't be a Muslim and a liberal?

What now?? Lesbian Muslims? This is nonsense. The dichotomy is so large it baffles me that your mind can come up with such juxtaposition of contradictions. (again very feminine, very western, very liberal).

4th, his "hate boner" for western imperialism is justified. I do not see you dispute that.

You just hate the objective truth.

The West is worse than the Mongols and the Timurids combined. You only got the Talmudic Jews as plausible competitors for the spot of worst human scourges in history.

Again your exposé did not do much to address the points I brought up and only exposed your logical fallacies, biases and faulty preconceptions.

Which leads me to the ask you to just be honest about it (like Trump is). Just say that you are a scumbag racist. Drop the pretenses, it's sickening (and very Democrat and Liberal).

Just be a good ole right wing conservative (or whatever flavor of manufactured bipartisan political wings you have at the moment in your part of the world) and be honest about it.

Or step outside your rusty framework.