@Vermillion-Rx I’m of the mind that it would hit everyone equally - why else would no one have released it? It’s mutually assured destruction and better kept in reserve as a threat.

The biggest indicator of this is that Trump, belligerent as he is, has:

• Brandished it as a weapon

• Claimed it isn’t real

• Claimed it was on his desk

• Demanded people stop talking about it.

You can clearly see when it is opportunistic to have it, and a threat when it can be used against you.

Instead of speculating about who it will hurt the most, let’s get it fucking released so everyone can be held to account and disinfected out of the system, red, blue or otherwise.

As an addendum: anyone going to bat for the files to remain hidden is obviously compromised, because there is no negative to the population being made aware of the truth.

Cc: everyone

@Stigma Why would Trump not have enjoyed an orgy or two at Epstein's? I would say he's just the type. Frankly I don't care. He was the non liberal candidate who would get shit done. I am not inviting him to meet my daughters and I recommend none of you do so either but I don't really worry about his sex life. I think when it comes to sex and women Trump has it all wrong but luckily he is running the US not a girls' swim team.

Epstein was not a paedo or a perv, so much as someone who liked very young sexually mature females and thought he was above the details of the law. He suffered from hybris and he paid the price of hybris but if a lot of rich guys went along to his parties and were grateful for what was on offer, I don't think it was a problem. Since when did checking a whore's ID become part of the transaction?

Epstein made whores rich and they were at the time very glad. If he had been a local bad boy working the door of a night club and had been letting the girls in for free without asking for age verifying ID in return for a few favours, the girls would be not a penny richer but he would not be dead either. It would not have been right but there would not be this scandal that contaminates everyone who touched him or his whores.

The only people I would like to see burned by knowing Epstein are the self righteous ones who are holier than others or who now say how terrible their former friend was when they dipped in the same bowl as he did and said thanks.

@Stigma I get that you're trolling, but I'm going to reply seriously anyway.

There's no way in hell Trump was involved.

1) he was the first to bring mainstream attention to Epstein back around 2015 or 2016 or so. No way in hell he'd have called attention to this while running for President if he had been involved.

2) the Obama Administration had the complete files at the time. They'd have ended Trump's run with that info if it existed.

3) the Biden Administration had the complete files from 2021 until this past January. Same same.

4) the Deep State tried everything to stop Trump from coming back, including assassination attempts and retarded impeachments over nothing. Had he been named in anything of interest involving Epstein, they'd have used that to stop him much more easily and assuredly than the crap they tried.

I think Tucker Carlson nailed it: they're protecting allied heads of state, and likely Israeli ones.

@Stigma

My conclusion regarding the identity is that Humanism is the way to go.

A lot of the "progressives" were instrumental in forming the humanist tradition. The fact that it has been taken over by the Woke doesn't change its fundamental values.

So, for example, we wouldn't be here is it wasn't for people like Herb Goldberg or Warren Farrell.

We wouldn't be here without some conservatives too, like Rollo.

TRP is supposed to be amoral, and it is, in the sense that we discuss strategy irrespective of its moral repercussions. However, a big part of TRP can be seen as restoring a moral balance, if only because society is tilted so much towards women. This restoration has very tangible results, such as on the upbringing of children and their mental health. It is, of course, irreplaceable as far as men's wellbeing is considered.

The Humanists somewhere lost it and included women in their reasoning, to their demise. We now know, scientifically, why women must be excluded. That way, the humanist ideas still stand and can provide a sense of community and identity for men all over the world.

@adam-l

In the face of all this, why the fuck would I draw identity from and identify with such a huge and variant group as "the whites".

You absolutely shouldn’t. Which is coincidentally why Lionsmane was getting called out so often. Blaming a disparate collection of “white people” for the wrongs of the world is essentially retarded, and doesn’t deserve a deeper discussion because no one has really been identified within that criticism. It is a progressive generalisation used to propagate mind rot like critical race theory, adopted by self-proclaimed enemies of the west like islamists in order to undermine and serve their own goals.

But there upon we should identify the deeper value lost in our rejection of their generalisation- that of a collective identity. If not “whites”, then what? Europeans? Anglos? Or is it only possible to separate ourselves from the crimes of TPTB why stripping ourselves down to individualism? Are we a collective within that identity? Why are we even moved to reconsider our own identity against the backdrop of being grouped in with maniacs and genociders just because they share the same skin tone as us.

I say we’re free to claim our identity without having to step into the progressive variation and/or generalisation of said identity, lest they continue to dismantle our communities and families to the point we no longer have a shared identity.