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Typo-MAGAshiv
3h ago  Politics

@deeplydisturbed

you don't go well.

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deeplydisturbed
14h ago  Politics

@Typo-MAGAshiv

I was there until recently.

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Typo-MAGAshiv
15h ago  Politics

@deeplydisturbed I'm solidly B, but still willing to criticize my own side

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deeplydisturbed
16h ago  Politics

@Typo-MAGAshiv

It does look that way.

Something the overwhelming majority of voters miss is strategy.

It’s like them trying to sense the air with their eyes. they cannot see it so it doesn’t exist. No disrespect intended.

the games that are played at that level have SO many moving parts - what’s popular, what is legal, where is the gray area, how to communicate the message, do we have the votes in the House/Senate, who hates me, what might be the opponent’s response.., and so on.

Most people look at such things and think:

A) Orange man bad because Jimmy Kimmel told me so

B) MAGA forever baby!

C) I don’t care about politics or future generations. Fuck all that. Where’s my money.

There are others, but about 75% of the US population is like this. And they vote accordingly.

And THAT my friends, is why we’re here.

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Typo-MAGAshiv
20h ago  Politics

@deeplydisturbed

Imagine Trump wants to dump the Epstein files. He threatens cajoles etc. The House Dems oppose. Some of his donors oppose. But he wants to do it. But to do so might kill his efforts permanently.

How to proceed?

One way is to start a rumor that he is in there. Leak it to an idiot or a traitor who cannot help themselves.

Then the rank and file Dems who have no idea what’s in those files and want to crush Trump suddenly start demanding it. This way it is NOT Trump calling for it. His donors calm down, some freak out. Some of them are ON the list themselves. But he is not complicit -at least on the face of it.

Israeli intelligence and the Jewish lobby in the US may see what he is doing, but it is now impossible to pin it on him.

I think you're right. He just signed a bill that passed in the House 427-1 and passed in the Senate unanimously, but as President, he could have just ordered the release at any time.

I think he played the Dems on this one, big time.

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deeplydisturbed
2d ago  Politics

@Typo-MAGAshiv

I tend to look beyond what is said by any of these clowns. The type of messaging they use is incredibly clever and powerful.

For example

Imagine Trump wants to dump the Epstein files. He threatens cajoles etc. The House Dems oppose. Some of his donors oppose. But he wants to do it. But to do so might kill his efforts permanently.

How to proceed?

One way is to start a rumor that he is in there. Leak it to an idiot or a traitor who cannot help themselves.

Then the rank and file Dems who have no idea what’s in those files and want to crush Trump suddenly start demanding it. This way it is NOT Trump calling for it. His donors calm down, some freak out. Some of them are ON the list themselves. But he is not complicit -at least on the face of it.

Israeli intelligence and the Jewish lobby in the US may see what he is doing, but it is now impossible to pin it on him.

I still don’t think anything will come out.

The level of Anti-semitism that would result globally, would rival Nazi Germany. It might also trigger the non-nuclear version of the Sampson Option. Prominent Jews and Israelis have been threatening this openly for the past few months now.

So things are getting beyond heated these days.

This is all speculative of course.

Also - I love Jewish people, Shalom, and yay Israel.

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Vermillion-Rx
2d ago  Development Updates

@Typo-MAGAshiv

That's weird. I restored it and deleted it myself and it still shows.

@redpillschool

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Typo-MAGAshiv
2d ago  Politics

@MentORPHEUS

Heh... it's Democrats' fault, till Trump has the power, then it's both parties' fault.

Well, yeah. They sat on them and didn't give two shits about them the entire time. The left only started to care when Trump told his own base "stop caring about that!"

And yes, I'm disappointed about this. I'm confident he's not in there himself for the reasons I've already stated, but A) going back on a promise like that is fucked up, and B) whoever he and the others are protecting need to be exposed. I don't care if it ruins our country's relationship with any other country (probably the reason they're not releasing it).

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MentORPHEUS
2d ago  Politics

@Typo-MAGAshiv Heh... it's Democrats' fault, till Trump has the power, then it's both parties' fault.

Anyway, with the delays in swearing in that new congresswoman, the House apparently voted to release the files and the Senate pledged to put the vote straight through.

Trump made some last minute move to "open an investigation" rendering parts of the files confidential on this basis. We'll see what happens next.

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Typo-MAGAshiv
3d ago  Politics

@MentORPHEUS you're failing to see the obvious: neither party actually wants that shit released. It's all posturing by whoever isn't in power, and whoever is in power protects the named accomplices.

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