@Vermillion-Rx I'm about to go to sleep, so I'll try to keep this short so I can look over some other stuff

He's partly right, concerning forgiveness.

Here's where he's wrong:

1) if someone hasn't wronged you, there's nothing for you to forgive. A known thief who has stolen from multiple people but not from you isn't really eligible for your forgiveness.

2) you can choose to overlook someone's promiscuous past, but it certainly isn't a moral obligation to do so. In fact, it's quite foolish to do so. It would be like trusting that thief from my example in #1 with a hefty sum of your money.

I predict he's going to learn the hard way in a few years, if this isn't just rage bait, engagement bait, whatever.

Tag @lurkerhasarisen @houseoftolstoy this thread gives me deja-vu; didn't I engage one or both of you in something similar a few years ago at the WAATGM subreddit?

@Typo-MAGAshiv Sounds like Theroux came from hislibtard bosses with a conclusion pre formed. He used to make good TV. He tried to get to the bottom of what people were like. He wins their confidence and then the truth just falls into his hands when he pauses in conversation.

In fact his Jimmy Saville documentaries were a good example, for all the attacking him for them in this one. Saville was a freak and a paedo but he was also adored by the British establishment as a great charity worker and was a knight of the realm. Louis gets close to him and while he doesn't quite show him up as a paedo Saville practically gives it away himself and he does show him up as a total weirdo who is manipulative. He only succeeds because he actually hangs out with Saville and wins his confidence.

Sometimes the freaks come out of Louis' documentaries on top -they explain themselves rationally and you see its the truth because he has got close to them and the truth has just fallen out.

He just came in to do a hatchet job on the manosphere, found some big easy targets and took them down. It wasn't a good job.

@Typo-MAGAshiv Waller, that was it. Yeah he came across much better than the others. He was defensive about letting Theroux closer into his personal life, and once he did everyone I watched the documentary with (not red pilled) agreed him and his wife were both quite happy with their lives.

I don’t know much about Waller at all, really, but I picked up on his insecurity being the bravado that he sells to young me is undermined by the genuine love he has for his family (it isn’t, but he seemed to think so initially).

But this is why I’m separating the red pill from the “manosphere” - the names you mention that Theroux failed to interview aren’t the snake oil sellers, and so not the subject being investigated. I mean I can see I’m splitting hairs in a manner, but I went into the documentary prepared to go on the defensive against Theroux, assuming he was going to lump in the respectable names by way of taking on the easy targets. To my mind, he didn’t do so.