The RP Men, Help me understand the frame. I've read the TRM and the Book of pook, Currently reading NMMNG. My basic definition of the frame is "Frame is the amount of influence an individual has over the other". But I am still kind of confused, For Instance, If a girl says "Are you a player?", I can simply say "no, I am not a player" because can't frame pretty much be defined as just being sure of yourself and your decisions/actions? Thank you!
How to pressure flip/Defect?
1) When talking to girls, I usually use AAA, but ultimately I don't always have something light-hearted/funny thing to say at the moment. So, I thought about giving Pressure flip a shot.
I read the DEER/DARE article and illimitablemen's Shit test essay from the Sidebar.
I really wasn't able to understand pressure flip properly...
For Instance, Girl: "I bet you miss me, don't you!"
My response will be "You're saying this cus YOU miss me", That's how I perceived "Pressure" "Flip", but the right response was "Just your ass".
So I got confused, Can explain pressure flip/Defect in your own words? I've read examples but it just made me more confused.
2) I am new to TRP, I just completed my 2 books, TRM and The book of pook, I lift, I eat healthier, I do go out to pick up girls (Success rate is pretty darn low). Anyway, I was thinking about reading a book called "Games people play", Is this book worth it? The person who recommended this book told me "It will help you with shit tests and more".
Read MoreJust read "the rational male", What's next? and My views.
TRM by Tomassi is one hell of a book that every man on this planet should definitely read.
If I had to summarize his book in the most basic way possible, It will be-
"Become a high-value man, a high-value man is what women want because he is THE MAN. To become a high-value man focus on yourself, improve yourself, hit the gym, study hard to get a better job (Imma a student), mean what you say i.e don't negotiate to please a woman".
This book also teaches you about many social dynamics and behavioral concepts.
It was my first book and it was also my introduction to the TRP world.
Now, I'll like to get some advice, I have many other TRP books (Thanks to someone I know). I have mentioned them below. I will like to know If you want me to remove or add any book to my reading journey. I am thinking to read books about shit tests and then study the game.
With all these books I decided to go on a reading journey. I need to know about the game before I can apply the concepts mentioned in TRM.
The reading journey below is ordered i.e I will be reading books as I have mentioned them in order- Reading Journey
-TRM (COMPLETED)
-Book of Pook (STARTED)
To pass the shit test:
-No more Mr. Nice guy
-When I say no I feel guilty
-How to win friends and influence people
For Game:
- c&f, mystery method, Bang & Game. (I chose multiple for multiple scenarios).
-The game by Neil Strauss. (I guess many people don't like it but I think it will be a good instruction manual).
The following are just for getting more educated:
-The art of seduction
-Get anyone to do Anything
-the 48 laws of power
-sex god method
Read More@Elvis I see, I understand, This qoute makes sense. Thank you
Need advice and help from "The" Men.
I am 19 years old, had a girlfriend (She played me good). I never had the balls to go to talk to a girl and when I finally got my balls, my game was ultra-beta. I don't even know what to type or how I can express my thoughts in words but I will try my best to articulate them as clear as possible. I will give my paragraphs "Titles" (Which might not be needed, but anyway).
The Journey: Beginning I am new to the Red Pill. I just read "The Rational Male" by Rollo Tomassi. Mr. Tomassi really described me in that book. It opened my eyes. Anyway, that book was the beginning of my red pill journey. The next thing on my book list is "The book of pook" and some "Game" books. I have chosen to go with "The Mystery Method", "Cocky and Funny", "Secrets of Speed seduction" and Finally "The Game".
Reality & Desire: I was a beta male, Maybe I still am to some extent but I am pretty sure I am gonna be completely unplugged after people will help me out on this question. I was a beta male due to the feminized world we live in and I was conditioned to believe that "Unconditional love" exists by Hollywood, Disney romantic movies. I always believed that "I" will also get unconditional love from my Future girlfriend/Wife and I will be appreciated because of the sacrifices I made for a girl who I considered "The ONE". When my ex-girlfriend played me and broke up with me (about a year ago), I was sad, even though we were not sexual, It still hurt a lot back then as I made sacrifices for her. I read The rational male and I realized what I did wrong, I realized my shortcomings. After reading the rational male, I wasn't angry at women for their hypergamous nature, I was just Disappointed and Sad at reality.
Thoughts: I completed the rational male 4 days ago and was sad and disappointed. I was sad and disappointed because I realized that women will never "Love" me rather they will "fight" over me because of my higher value and given how I interact (that is Game). I always thought when I will get a girlfriend I'd cuddle with her, look into her eyes, and tell her how much I love her. But, in reality, if I do that she'll take me for granted and it will backfire on me. It genuinely made me sad and confused. I feel lucky and happy that I accidentally stumbled upon the red pill last month as I can learn many red pill things by the time I am 22 or 23, but the reality is way too cruel, I just wanted to experience romance in a way I imagined. 2 days ago my grandma passed away, It made me realize that human life is so Fragile. I thought to myself that life is so short and the things I expected (romantically) were just a fairy tale that I wouldn't get to do and Ultimately, one day I will die. I don't know if I was able to articulate my thoughts/questions. I hope you'll understand. Thank you
Read More