Is it too corny to bring her a flower on the first date?

I've been single for the past 5 years. During this time, I've dated girls casually and I haven't had sex in a year or so, due to mainly gaining weight. I've gained about 10kg, but recently I started turning my life around, getting back in shape, getting on a diet, and everything. I became slightly more attractive as my face is not bloated out of existence like it used to.

There's a really cute girl who joined us at the company (I know don't shit where you eat, but hear me out). She works with another team that's different from mine and I don't have any business dealings with her, and the spark was almost instantaneous. I bumped into her on her first day, and we hit it off really quickly. She's the exact type that I look for (cute, bump truck of an ass, smart, creative...etc), and apparently, I'm her type too. 2 weeks later, we bumped into each other again, and again we had a great fucking conversation. I added her on Facebook that night, and we spoke a bit and then I texted her out of the blue this week to ask her help with translating a video I was making. I don't speak the local language, she does, so she dedicated about 3-4 hours of her Thursday night just scrolling through the video and giving me corrections, all the while texting back and forth asking me random stuff like since when I've been in the city, why I like doing videos, and cracking jokes left and right, and to me, she was checking every box. I'm obviously catching a case of oneties, so I'm trying to be cautious, but it's really rare for me to feel this attracted to a girl. The girls I dated before, I usually always feel, "meh", put in some work on the first date, fuck them, then we go our separate ways because there was no real connection. With her it feels different.

I had this exact same level of connection and experience with my ex girlfriend, so I think it's going somewhere, maybe a bit too early to judge. I'm 28, she's 26, and she went on a trip this week and she's coming back on Sunday. She promised after she's back, she'll start working a business card idea for my side gig (she does graphic design), and even though she's traveling solo, she's still texting me.

I told her that I feel like I should buy her a drink and get her some lemonade as a reward for her help with the translation, and I also think about renting one of those pedaling boats and spending some quality time pedaling around the river and speaking about stuff, but I also want to bring her a red flower to implicitly let her know that this is not an out-of-work friendship type of situation, and I'm interested in something more, do you guys think this approach is okay? I'm really hesitant.

I never brought a flower to a first date before lol I did it once, but the girl was asking for it on text on tinder before meeting.

@Lionsmane8 I've got some work to do bro, I haven't seen pussy in over a year and I gained some weight. I spoke to a girl at work yesterday who's fucking hot and it was reciprocal, and last week I cold approached a girl as well, this week my confidence was through the fucking roof, but then I look at the mirror and I remember I'll never be worthy of love because I'm a fat fuck.

It's sad but it's true, if you're fat, you're not worthy of love or anything for that matter.

I started hitting the gym 2 weeks ago and I'm feeling much better about myself, and I started also eating in moderation, but I got a long way to go.

I remember when I was skinnier and more attractive, shittests never got through to me. This girl she did multiple shittests and I dodged them all.

This one in particular I just registered as "weird" and it literally came out of nowhere. I still passed it I think because I told her amusingly how she came to that conclusion and she told me she's a psychologist and gave me my psychological profile so I was telling her it's like I'm reading my horoscope haha, and I just kept poking fun at her but then I failed when I tried to dig deeper into why she said what she said. Should've definitely brushed it off and moved on.

Ngl, I've been feeling rattled today since that text. I don't know why. I know I'm confident, but I feel like my frame is completely fucking shattered. Even the girl at work who I really like (ik don't shit where you eat) I completely fumbled texting her and ended up going nowhere with it.

I need time. A lot of time to figure out a lot of my shit.

@Typo-MAGAshiv I get that, I never tell people how confident I am, I mentioned it a few times because she's attacking that specific trait in me which is fucking hilarious. Also I didn't say it, my colleagues said it, so that's different.

I don't see it as a shittest, tbh bro I just find it mad fucking disrespectful. I entertained shittest in the 6 years I've been on the pill but at this point some shit tests have become instanf disqualifications for me, this is one of them.

Is it weak of me to not like a specific type of comments and be completely turned off by them? I can tolerate anything else, and it's just I never see myself making any type of comments close to that, but I make comments about anything else as teasing and I can tolerate teasing, but shit like that makes my blood boil and i just hard pass whoever the fuck does rhem.

Another example: I was once telling a colleague of mine about a hiking trail I found in Switzerland that included walking and taking transportation to go across mountains and several towns in the span of couple days. I was actually stoked to finally go so it was another instance of me genuinely having a good moment.

My colleague, a she obviously, looks at me and says, "Yeah I don't think you can make it".

My body language, my face and everything else switched off, very similarly to the above. I ask her what she means, she explains, "lol I don't think you can walk that distance, it's too much".

It wasn't even that much... It was like 12-14km per day, I tell her, "Wow, you don't even know what kind of hikes I took in the past and you just jumped into conclusions like that".

She realized her fuck up and immediately apologized and tried to spin it that the terrain is just too much.

Hell no bitch I know what you said and that ain't it. She could've said such hike is too difficult or the traversal can be challenging but no she said, "I don't junk YOU can make it".

Guys never ever make comments like this to me ever. I personally would never tell anyone a comment like that ever. It's disrespectful, disregarding, and humiliating.

What the fuck is wrong with people? Imagine you're studying to become a veterinary and I show up and say, "Okay but you're not a real doctor", literally the same

Matched with a girl on tinder, I'm having a lot of fun teasing and texting her, she asks me what I do I tell her I run a drug dealing business and an onlyfans, she proceeds to tell me, "Why you're always making sexual jokes and stuff about drugs? You're not confident :)"

I was really confused by the statement and it really came out of nowhere.

I personally fucking hate it when someone is having fun and the time of their lives and then someone else just barges in and says/does something inappropriate and fucks it all up. It's not even about confidence at this point, I just fucking hate that trait.

Once I was also, for some reason, hyper active and having the time of my life, just being nonchalant about everything, relaxed approachable and smiley, then my female colleague, who's been entertaining me this entire time, turns to me and says, "What's happened to you? You're okay? Did you drink or smoke something before coming to work?"

It's like a switch and she actioned it. My energy levels went from 100 to -76. I immediately switch off, tell her yeah never mind then.

Back to the tinder girl, I'm confused as to why she'd think that, she proceeds to tell me she wrote a book on psychology and she knows what type of guy I am. I was like sure, just from texting, and tells I'm a 50/50 typa guy. Then she flips the subject and asks me where I'm from.

I hold her back for a second and ask her how she arrived to the confidence conclusion, and she tells me because I'm always making jokes about drugs, I do it to sound manlier than I am, but she could be wrong.

I tell her fuck yes you're wrong. My colleagues were bothered by me because I was way too confident for them, and I hate to say it but I'm confident in myself and my actions beyond belief, and I'm just really fucking confused as to why in the fuck she'd say something like that in the middle of s nice conversation.

She says yeah sorry I'm wrong I don't mean it and we're just talking and I tell her it's all good I'm not pissed just genuinely confused then tells me okay you started well now you're going way down so goodbye, I bid her farewell and unmatch.

Guys, what in the fuck was that?

@coolsocks00 I forgot who said it, but out of status, money and game, the latter is the most important and everything else can be mitigated. I definitely didn't have status when I was lean, didn't have money (made them pay for every singular drink), but I had and still have game. I can assure you that my game is solid. I won't go into too much detail, but trust me: I know how to speak with girls and how to escalate and get them into my bed.

I'm not saying it's impossible since I did get laid being a fat bastard, but holy shit it's just twice as hard, and the strike rate is significantly lower, like waaaaayyy low.

Confirmation bias is a bitch, and maybe I'm just fucking myself here thinking that since I'm fat girls won't fuck me, but it's just a fact. You really won't understand what it is like until you gain weight yourself and watch the world around you change for the worse.

Let me try illustrating it, I'm still the same confident cocky horny piece of shit, it's just when I open a girl now, instead of having her giggle and play with her hair while eyefucking me, she's keeping her distance and trying to be polite and kind, showing 0 iois, unresponsive to my escalation because I may be funny, witty and confident, they won't consider fucking me because they csnt even see my jawline.

I mean, think about this: do you find fat girls attractive? I'm not talking about the morbidly obese. Just girls who have a extra 15-20lbs, nothing crazy. I personally don't. And I treat them the same way I get girls treating me now lol.

This is just bitching and whining bro, I just gotta lose weight and then I'll fuck everything on sight no problem.