@jlred

For some reason the forum doesn't work so I am gonna post this here:

22 year old somewhat attractive, frustrated virgin. Mental loss of what to do

So I'll start with the basic facts and then get into the story:

--22M --In a very rural part of USA --Grew up in a homeschooled, very religious family where sexual talk was frowned upon, no sex ed, not allowed to meet with girls at all. Barely knew anything of that sort until about 19-20. --In a town of several hundred with nothing but desert for nearly an hour for any direction --It's a top retirement spot where I am, too - to compound the lack-of-young-girls issue --I learned the hard way you do not do cold approach and do gamey stuff because there's no anonymity (like 10-15 per graduating class). Everyone knows everything & gossips and I don't want a part in it because of the potential to lose my business rep (see below) --Living at my parents. Probably couldn't have girls over, and even if I could it's not like a city where there are people 5-10 minutes away. My tinder/bumble usually says "no matches" if I set my radius to under 25 miles, and still runs out pretty quickly under 60 miles --I am frustrated with life. Not really depressed, just frustrated and feel like I've got the short end of the stick when it comes to women in my life.

So why have I not moved out to a good area?

The curse of the very old population here is actually a HUGE benefit for the service business I provide. My first 3 years of work (very little marketing) have yielded roughly $10k, $20k, and now $50k (24k is median income in this area), and my schedule is under half full. I am the leader for this service and see the possibility of becoming a monopoly. With some proper marketing I believe I can roll up to $100k/year or at least close, being my own boss. I know I've hit a lucky niche jackpot and would feel dumb to give it up now if it could grow 2x-3x bigger (which I think it can). My living expenses are about $8k/year at my parent's place, so I save almost every penny. With this continuation of hard work & investing my money and not buying stupid shit, I could very likely 1) retire before 35, especially if I'm frugal or 2) move out in a few years with a nice savings stash. Right now, I have about $60k net worth: $30k in S&P and $15k each in other investments & cash. I see breaking 100k NW this year probable although my ultimate goal to "lean-fire/frugally retire" is around 1M USD. Maybe I'd move out before then but I'd be fearful to move out before I have at least 300-500k. (Every girl I've gone out with has no idea of my net worth though, I'm extremely frugal, drive a beater car, etc.) I don't have good experience outside of my lucky business, I could maybe get a job making 50k like I am now - but that's a set pay & also I'm not my own boss anymore. No way am I doing as well financially if I move out. And my yearly expenses would shoot up from like 8k to probably 20k even being frugal. So that is why I haven't left yet. I don't want to be 50 thinking "man I could've retired if I just stayed there a few more years!"

With that said I have had a little success

I sequentially made my first cold approach, first date, first kiss, and had 2 blowjobs and that's it in the past couple years. But the logistics have just never been right to have sex, and I would like to think I have some level of frame on dates but it's not easy when I have like 2 dates per year, usually like an hour away from home. I know some will disagree with me for saying this but I am fairly certain that I am well above average on the attractiveness scale, as well. The few times I've gone to cities for a trip (with family, so dates weren't possible), I've had pretty high success cold approaching pretty girls, more yes than no for the number close. With that said, I'm just frustrated. It's not exaggerating to say there are no attractive women in my social groups at all, or even in my town. But, I feel it'd be a massive error to move to a city now and go from saving 80% of my income to 20% of it if I'm lucky. Also, I feel like if I had a bit more experience I could make due with some hookups a bit further away, but I just feel so inadequate and out of the loop with my lack of experience and frequency of female interaction - naturally resorting to "businessman" straight-shooting talk and forgetting to flirt. I knew it was time to get help when I started thinking of taking a trip to a city and hiring an escort just to get this itch scratched...the money & time I'd forfeit for real success with women would be much greater than several hundred bucks worth anyway. Is that not a terrible idea or would it help get me over the hump?

What would you do...what should I do? Should I just stick it out and enjoy the benefits later, or do something now to shake things up?

Your life reads as good life to have. With a few modest improvements, I wouldn't want to risk losing it or alienating people against me either. Reads like the problem is rooted in a lack of confidence on your part. Maybe you should consider taking a few day trips and see what there is to see in your state on the weekends, or whenever you take off from work. Doing so will also help you build up your confidence in traveling out of town alone. It's a small step, but a good one to take. It'll also free you to answer the other questions for yourself.

For some reason the forum doesn't work so I am gonna post this here:

22 year old somewhat attractive, frustrated virgin. Mental loss of what to do

So I'll start with the basic facts and then get into the story:

--22M --In a very rural part of USA --Grew up in a homeschooled, very religious family where sexual talk was frowned upon, no sex ed, not allowed to meet with girls at all. Barely knew anything of that sort until about 19-20. --In a town of several hundred with nothing but desert for nearly an hour for any direction --It's a top retirement spot where I am, too - to compound the lack-of-young-girls issue --I learned the hard way you do not do cold approach and do gamey stuff because there's no anonymity (like 10-15 per graduating class). Everyone knows everything & gossips and I don't want a part in it because of the potential to lose my business rep (see below) --Living at my parents. Probably couldn't have girls over, and even if I could it's not like a city where there are people 5-10 minutes away. My tinder/bumble usually says "no matches" if I set my radius to under 25 miles, and still runs out pretty quickly under 60 miles --I am frustrated with life. Not really depressed, just frustrated and feel like I've got the short end of the stick when it comes to women in my life.

So why have I not moved out to a good area?

The curse of the very old population here is actually a HUGE benefit for the service business I provide. My first 3 years of work (very little marketing) have yielded roughly $10k, $20k, and now $50k (24k is median income in this area), and my schedule is under half full. I am the leader for this service and see the possibility of becoming a monopoly. With some proper marketing I believe I can roll up to $100k/year or at least close, being my own boss. I know I've hit a lucky niche jackpot and would feel dumb to give it up now if it could grow 2x-3x bigger (which I think it can). My living expenses are about $8k/year at my parent's place, so I save almost every penny. With this continuation of hard work & investing my money and not buying stupid shit, I could very likely 1) retire before 35, especially if I'm frugal or 2) move out in a few years with a nice savings stash. Right now, I have about $60k net worth: $30k in S&P and $15k each in other investments & cash. I see breaking 100k NW this year probable although my ultimate goal to "lean-fire/frugally retire" is around 1M USD. Maybe I'd move out before then but I'd be fearful to move out before I have at least 300-500k. (Every girl I've gone out with has no idea of my net worth though, I'm extremely frugal, drive a beater car, etc.) I don't have good experience outside of my lucky business, I could maybe get a job making 50k like I am now - but that's a set pay & also I'm not my own boss anymore. No way am I doing as well financially if I move out. And my yearly expenses would shoot up from like 8k to probably 20k even being frugal. So that is why I haven't left yet. I don't want to be 50 thinking "man I could've retired if I just stayed there a few more years!"

With that said I have had a little success

I sequentially made my first cold approach, first date, first kiss, and had 2 blowjobs and that's it in the past couple years. But the logistics have just never been right to have sex, and I would like to think I have some level of frame on dates but it's not easy when I have like 2 dates per year, usually like an hour away from home. I know some will disagree with me for saying this but I am fairly certain that I am well above average on the attractiveness scale, as well. The few times I've gone to cities for a trip (with family, so dates weren't possible), I've had pretty high success cold approaching pretty girls, more yes than no for the number close. With that said, I'm just frustrated. It's not exaggerating to say there are no attractive women in my social groups at all, or even in my town. But, I feel it'd be a massive error to move to a city now and go from saving 80% of my income to 20% of it if I'm lucky. Also, I feel like if I had a bit more experience I could make due with some hookups a bit further away, but I just feel so inadequate and out of the loop with my lack of experience and frequency of female interaction - naturally resorting to "businessman" straight-shooting talk and forgetting to flirt. I knew it was time to get help when I started thinking of taking a trip to a city and hiring an escort just to get this itch scratched...the money & time I'd forfeit for real success with women would be much greater than several hundred bucks worth anyway. Is that not a terrible idea or would it help get me over the hump?

What would you do...what should I do? Should I just stick it out and enjoy the benefits later, or do something now to shake things up?