Not in my country. A woman that took my children and leave me will get nothing. I will still pay child support but that's because I love my children and not because the state gets involved. Her standard of living will drop a lot because I spend more money on women and children that stay around.
Still, child support in the west is still less than alimony + child support. Depends on the law. You can reduce the amount to a reasonable amount by having many children.
I honestly think western idea of linking child support to a man's income as grossly genocidal against rich man. Women should have the right to ask for the amount she want before. The fact that you can't even sign a contract on a fair amount is a problem.
The issue is you live in a country with bullshit absurd laws that get in the way or rich men producing children. It's not that one of us are necessarily simp. My strategy works fine in my country.
Commitment doesn't have to be married. To be honest, I took care of my children because that's my basic instinct as a man. Not because I am married or legally bound or anything.
I think it's disgusting for some mods to just kick me out without even a discussion.
Paying an agreed upon amount, either PPM or monthly is fair and consensual.
+ Nope. I never assume women or anyone to be trustworthy. That's actually my strategy. Do NOT count on trust.
Paying doesn't count on trust. But we both have incentive to stick around and not be a jerk to each other. For the children at least.
+ By the way, you no longer have traditional marriage in the west. You have modern absurd marriage designed to fuck over rich man and to make sure rich man don't have too many women so the poor get some too.
The closest you can get to traditional marriage, as far as I know, is being a sugar daddy like me. Just pay her monthly for life unless things go really wrong. She won't leave me. She needs me for money.
What country do you and the mothers of your children live in? Also, what religion do you practice?
Read More@carnold03 By the way, you no longer have traditional marriage in the west. You have modern absurd marriage designed to fuck over rich man and to make sure rich man don't have too many women so the poor get some too.
The closest you can get to traditional marriage, as far as I know, is being a sugar daddy like me. Just pay her monthly for life unless things go really wrong. She won't leave me. She needs me for money.
@adam-l Yes. How is it relevant? I am a stay at home father. My children with my sugar babies live with me.
@carnold03 Nope. I never assume women or anyone to be trustworthy. That's actually my strategy. Do NOT count on trust.
Paying doesn't count on trust. But we both have incentive to stick around and not be a jerk to each other. For the children at least.
Not in my country. A woman that took my children and leave me will get nothing. I will still pay child support but that's because I love my children and not because the state gets involved. Her standard of living will drop a lot because I spend more money on women and children that stay around.
Still, child support in the west is still less than alimony + child support. Depends on the law. You can reduce the amount to a reasonable amount by having many children.
I honestly think western idea of linking child support to a man's income as grossly genocidal against rich man. Women should have the right to ask for the amount she want before. The fact that you can't even sign a contract on a fair amount is a problem.
The issue is you live in a country with bullshit absurd laws that get in the way or rich men producing children. It's not that one of us are necessarily simp. My strategy works fine in my country.
Commitment doesn't have to be married. To be honest, I took care of my children because that's my basic instinct as a man. Not because I am married or legally bound or anything.
I think it's disgusting for some mods to just kick me out without even a discussion.
Paying an agreed upon amount, either PPM or monthly is fair and consensual.
Read More@destraht I sort of agree.
People tend to portray that paying for sex is immoral and for losers. That the men are losers and the women are exploited.
I don't lie when I offer money to women. I told them if she has high IQ and is pretty I would like this to be serious like paying this much per month. I don't feel it's wrong in anyway. I felt that's moral.
Before, I used to help women that's not a match with me get some other guy. Now I helped only when it's reciprocal.
Wow. I got suspended by trp subreddit for saying this.
What I am trying to say is don't get married. Just be a sugar daddy like me. Far more cost effective. That is, if you are in top 1% of wealth.
Can I get a woman that pay half? Maybe. But what's the point? I like smart beautiful women to have children with. Those women are usually young and poor. Men don't aim for rich women. I am one of those men.
Do I care about personality? Could be. But as long as she gives me sex and children and be a good mom for my children why should I care? Thinking like capitalists and offer fair transaction is a good personality in my book anyway.
What I DON'T WANT TO SPEND TIME AND MONEY FOR
Dinner.... If I am not sure she's smart or she's pretty to my standard I don't want to meet her. Willingness to give at least hand job or nude pic is a plus. Alimony. I will NEVER get married. Paying for fuck? I don't mind. Sure I can think of some way to fuck for free but it's not worth it.
I don't understand with white men's obsession with sex should be free. Yet they spend a lot of money on unfair child support and alimony laws and they put themselves in situation where shit like that can happen.
And they call me SIMP? Really?
That's the thing, you clearly are a simp, a coward, and an profoundly stupid one at that.
Being a sugar daddy is just as disastrous a wealth preservation strategy as marriage as it leaves a man even more vulnerable than a divorcing husband to being fleeced by the state on behalf of the mother in advanced western countries. In this instance you've deceived yourself into believing a female can be trusted to honor, of all things, a verbal agreement. All she need do is develop a sense of unhappiness with the relationship, file a paternity suit, and you're done.
When you take a wife, form a family, and grow a household you're not starting a business, you're building a legacy. Getting married and having kids isn't a means through which a man generally comes to experience any rapid economic benefit or return. If any economic benefit is experienced, it tends to be slow, gradual, and the result of a sustained investment of time, energy, and at times money, on the part of the man into the various members of the household over a span of two or more decades. It comes quite some time after the wife masters the skills associated with the role needed of her in the home, and the children grow competent in the control of their extremities that they don't feebly break things or injure themselves that you can begin to see yourself break even on the investment and it takes very little to undo your work going forward. Men who make this choice, who may even resent their wives through all this, rarely regret investing into their children.
While I agree that any man contemplating marriage should put the woman through extensive scrutiny before even considering to propose to her, having spent time working in mental health, much of that time with kids and inmates, I can't co-sign on the idea that being a sugar daddy or co-parenting are viable alternatives to a traditional marriage. It denies the child a committed involved father and everything which comes with that beyond the fathers material provisioning. Additionally, the woman has no reason to honor the agreement indefinitely, because a preference for young, poor females, overlooks that females are more cunning than beta males like yourself generally give them credit. So, if being materially wealthy is truly your goal, you may want to hold off on any more romantic involvements indefinitely and simply make a habit of wrapping your pecker before you poke her.
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Children who grow up without the presence of their physical father have a much elevated chance to develop personality disorders, boys to become homosexual, and girls to become feminists. Just making sure you get that.
@dingleberry299 I can give time and attention. But it's tiring. I mean one of my sugar baby wants me to spend lots of time with her and I got other sugar baby that also like me. Yes they need financial support. Kind of fair given that they're the one getting pregnant.
Wow. I got suspended by trp subreddit for saying this.
What I am trying to say is don't get married. Just be a sugar daddy like me. Far more cost effective. That is, if you are in top 1% of wealth.
Can I get a woman that pay half? Maybe. But what's the point? I like smart beautiful women to have children with. Those women are usually young and poor. Men don't aim for rich women. I am one of those men.
Do I care about personality? Could be. But as long as she gives me sex and children and be a good mom for my children why should I care? Thinking like capitalists and offer fair transaction is a good personality in my book anyway.
What I DON'T WANT TO SPEND TIME AND MONEY FOR
Dinner.... If I am not sure she's smart or she's pretty to my standard I don't want to meet her. Willingness to give at least hand job or nude pic is a plus. Alimony. I will NEVER get married. Paying for fuck? I don't mind. Sure I can think of some way to fuck for free but it's not worth it.
I don't understand with white men's obsession with sex should be free. Yet they spend a lot of money on unfair child support and alimony laws and they put themselves in situation where shit like that can happen.
And they call me SIMP? Really?
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