After a few initial weeks of mystery method and getting no results whatsoever, I discovered RSD and natural game, and it appealed a lot to me. I hated the fact that I had to lie to get into a woman's vagina, and that would mean admitting to myself that I was a deficient man; If left to myself, I couldn't get any women – a confession of impotence. Although, I could only do indirect approaches, direct seemed to be the real deal.

There is significant debate as to how much natural you should be. People still do the mystery method, cause it works! Only in some special cases and in special places, but it does work. At the same time, a lot of men want to do the ballsier mode one stuff (i'm gonna train myself on dominance soon, and mode one is indeed the best training wheels). If you look closely though, you will find that on a deep level, most men have just one objection to indirect game – They believe lying to women is wrong.

Interrupting

Let's say you're jogging in the park and you've forgotten your phone/watch/whatever the fuck you use for time. You see an old man sitting on the bench with his newspaper, deeply engaged with what he's reading. Now the question is when you go up and interrupt him to ask the time, how do you begin?

If you're normal, you ask , “Excuse me.”, and go on. Now the interesting thing is I don't know anything about you, but I do know the choice of your first two words. A real man, however, doesn't rely on the “excuse me” opening routine. The natural just stays “present”, and in the moment, and everything that comes out of his mouth is a “ten”. A lot of double quotes were thrown around in the previous couple of sentences, but you kinda get the idea how retarded this is if you look at this a bit rationally.

If the person in front of you, expects you to say excuse me, then you fucking say excuse me. You don't get artistic or creative or cocky or whatever the fuck is used to describe some hackneyed way to do it. You keep it simple and predictable.

And yet, in game we hear this again and again. Real men this, masculine men that, and fuck all. All that is bullshit by the way.

Rule 1 of game : You only owe the woman consent and nothing else.

Lying

Lying is a part of the game. Drill it into yourself very carefully, cause this is a slippery one. You must lie to the woman, but you must be completely honest with yourself. You can bullshit her, but you don't bullshit yourself, and that makes it more tricky.

Now why is lying allowed in the game? If your answer is, that it is fooling the woman into your pants, I'd argue it's wrong. Personally I haven't seen a woman open her legs for a man, who didn't know what she was doing. Women know; Even when she's too drunk, she knew before she agreed for that vodka shot. Women know, and they always know.

The reason why lying is allowed in the game, is that women expect it.

Plausible deniability

It's one of the core bread and butter concepts of redpill, and yet men still wonder if they can lie. Of course they can. No matter how drunk you've gotten the woman, you cannot reliably tell her that you are taking her home to fuck her. You say netflix and chill; It's your netflix and chill routine.

You don't ask her if she's available, this friday to fuck. You ask her out for a drink.

Even she doesn't ask you if you wanna fuck; She wonders if you can step out of the door.

Make no mistake, women expect you to lie. The reason they want plausible deniability is two fold – First, it allows them to deny it later. Second, it's not ambiguous in the moment, and they know what the deal is. If they don't, they blow you out. Yeah, one can reframe this in various ways, by saying it was true in the moment, or that it was subcommunicated, and all these are valid viewpoints. But for a traditional linear-thinking man, he simply has to lie on her face, and lie with a grin. Lie so badly, that the world's biggest fool would know that he's lying. But lie he must.

This is a rule of the game. You don't owe a woman truth and neither does she prefer it. When you're daygaming solo, you're friend is waiting for you. When you're taking her home, you want to watch some netflix.

She may say, that she doesn't like playing games; She's the straightforward type. The worst thing that she likes about a guy is that he's a liar. Blah blah blah.. If you hear these words, know that she's lying. And she's also hoping that you would. Because men who get it do. Owing her the truth is also an instrument of the feminine imperative. Don't show your cards before she even bets. I know you hate lying, but you have to do it.

When communicating truth to women, always communicate it contextually. They won't miss it, trust me and they're better at this then we can ever hope to be.

Remember, the only thing that you owe her is her consent to fuck. The rest you can safely ignore.

Artful lying looks like the pinochio's nose to women; Except it's not a nose, but a very attractive dick growing out of your lips. And what woman can refuse such a gift of pleasure.

[This is reproduced from my blogspot blog post. The Full post is right here, and the link is just for completeness; You needn't navigate away to that.]

Tip Shanksnes for their post.