Past few days, I’ve been suffering. Been doing cold approach at college and so far, every girl acted super awkward and not social at all. Everyone around here just walks to class and theres tons of people who simply don’t talk to each other. I feel terrible. I’m not good looking enough for tinder or the bars and clubs because that’s for the high-status chads which I am not. I’m a nobody, a guy with 0 friends outside my roommates. I talked to a chick earlier who was helping me with homework and she agreed that the school is very antisocial but she did say that she isn’t very good with talking to people she doesn’t know. I guess girls here aren’t used to being cold approached, that’s why they act so weird. It’s tough.
As I was saying, I’ve been an outcast my whole life and I just take things personally when people don’t like me. I feel unwanted almost everywhere I go. When I go to bars alone, everyone already knows each other and girls talk amongst themselves and I’m way to pussy to approach. I don’t know how to approach chicks in a bar, either. I have no friends and no life outside of school. Maybe I should join a club or something.
I feel like if girls found me attractive, they would be a lot more receptive to my approaches. Maybe I’m not talking to them for long enough. I don’t get it.
The reason why I joined this forum was because I want to be a better person. I gave up video games and I haven’t masturbated to porn in 1 month. I’m devoting a lot of time to try to socialize but I’m always being shut down. I’m scared it’s going to be this way forever and I’m simply not worthy of people.
I feel unwanted, unloved, and not cared for. What should I do?
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financehardo420 7mo ago
Also all of the above here
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Testme 7mo ago
(1) Don't go to bars, etc. (2) Read RP books like "Atomic Attraction" carefully and do what they say (3) Weight lifting, dieting, good grooming and attention to attire can make virtually anybody look relatively good (4) There is a huge behavior component to attractiveness. Ever seen a real human corpse or multiple corpses? They are not attractive and they all look the same. Put a corpse of an "ugly" guy next to a "handsome" one and they don't look that different. Behavior is important.
financehardo420 7mo ago
Here it is friend.
Understand time and place. During the middle of the school day; chicks have shit to do. They’re on their way to their next class; they don’t have time to sit around and wait for someone to give their number etc etc. save rizzing for the bars - that’s when they’re looking to meet guys. Not on campus in the middle of the weekday. Wait until after you’ve become pretty skilled and confident for daygame bc you’re just gonna keep getting in your head with all these repeated patterns of failure.
You’re 6” something. You have the potential to be chad. Chad is chad bc chad lifts heavy ass weights and has big ass muscles. Your physique is entirely in your control. Your daily habits are what build your physique. And it takes time to see results… 3 months of consistent hard work will have you pleased with yourself. 6 months of consistent hard work will get results from bitches. 1 year of consistent hard work and you should be chad level. Yes; there’s such things as genetic limits and shit but LITERALLY ANYONE can have abs and decent sized arms/back/legs. Genetics really only become relevant if you’re trying to become mr Olympia. Lift fucking HEAVY - if you’re not sore as fuck the next day your workload is too light. Lift to (or at least very near to) FAILURE. This is what stimulates growth. Educate yourself. Do cardio too don’t slack on that. Sprints. I prefer swimming. And then eat appropriately: lean proteins. Make sure you give yourself enough protein for your muscles to grow (aim for ab 1g protein per lb of body weight; maybe 5-10 extra if you’re bulking). You might need to do a body recomp before you start bulking. Get your abs showing or basically get to like 10-11% body fat (abs or barely a little tiny bit of flab above your lower abs that you can barely pinch). Bulk at a 500cal surplus then for like a month or two. Then cut again so you’re back down to lower body fat. Rinse repeat and eventually you’ll have an admirable physique that will absolutely pull mad bitches. Think ab it… a hot bitch is pretty universally attractive to us - nice ass, slim waist, good legs, good face etc. the body is what makes our dicks hard. Same for chicks. Build your body don’t worry so much ab your face there’s not much you can do ab it. But even if you do have an “ugly” face would you rather be ugly w a flabby tummy or ugly w 6 pack abs?
You overthink too much and are overly nice. Ie you were at a rush party and you brought nicer more expensive beers there (rookie mistake; frat provides the booze) and then instead of sharing them w actives you let some freshman kid drink too much. Then instead of dipping w the actives to secure your bid, you went to help the kid and called him an ambulance n shit lmfao. Become more self concerned. Be more chadly in your actions.
You’re in school for a reason - grind that shit out that should be your main priority. Getting bitches n going to the bars should come secondary.
For friends you just have to keep going to the bars. Keep going out, be outgoing have convos w ppl. I know it sounds stereotypical but eventually you’ll find your crowd you won’t be a lone wolf forever lol. If you’re always being shut down then something about the way you’re approaching is offputting to people; it’s not necessarily you per se. Take note of it when it happens and maybe try different approaches next time.
Eventually once bros see you around enough (esp if they see you rizzin bitches) you’ll start to establish credibility and eventually you might buy each drinks n fuckin talk. Explain that you’re not a weird fuck; you love to party but came here as transfer and that’s why you don’t know anybody. When you make a good impression they’ll intro you to their friends and boom social circle established.
Finance out to the bars to rail some whores
User4566 7mo ago
Thank you for all of this. I appreciate you.
mattyanon Admin 7mo ago
Yes, but you can still blow it by fucking it up.
You need attraction (comes in many forms) and comfort and investment. Attraction tends to motivate the other aspects, so you're right it's important.
Be as attractive as you can..... get in great physical shape, muscles, good definition, LOW BODY FAT. It's hard but there's no excuse for not doing it.
You need to build an amazing life, THEN you get the girls, Not the other way around. But being on the journey helps a lot
Love works like money: people only want to give it to people who already have an abundance of it.
Forget being cared for: noone has that. You're not a child, you don't need it either.
As a man you need to build a great life, then people come to you and want to know you. They need a hook. Are you talented, successful, clever, witty, fun, charming, attractive? If none of those things, why would they bother loving and caring for you, you're not a child.
Look, I know it's hard. You're young and you don't have much. But you can get on your journey and build a great life.
Socially...... you just need to learn to like people, relax with people, and stop doing things wrong. Have something to say and listen and enjoy other people. It's not too hard, you're probably fucking something up and I can't tell what it is without more info,
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MemeWarVet 7mo ago
You are in college - that means your focus should be on building up your value. You need to pick a number of activities and hobbies that will compound over the next 1-3 years, in the following areas: fizeek, rizz, depth, and status.
Stay consistent in these activities, even if it seems like you aren't getting anywhere for the first few months (hell even the first year), and you will be drowning in cooch in your early 20s.
Fizeek: this is by far the easiest. Literally just go to the gym 4-5 times a week, don't be lazy or a pussy, and you will be jacked in 2 years or less. It becomes harder to develop physical gains as you get older, so your older self is going to thank you for getting serious about this while you're still in college. Find the most basic beginner routines online, watch YouTube videos to get the form right, and look for a more experienced mentor. If you can't afford a personal trainer, make friends with the most jacked guys at the gym -- this will help your social skills / cold approach skills too. Every one of them remembers what it was like to be starting out, so they'll be happy to help.
If I were starting out today, I would make an anonymous Twitter/X account and join as many Spaces as possible, on a variety of topics -- the anonymity will make you bolder, and your voice won't be recognized since you're a nobody with no public profile. Try and find topics that actually interest you, that you enjoy discussing and learning about. Sometimes it takes a while to find the right ones, but there's no substitute for genuine passion. Still, any topic is better than none -- no matter what you're talking about, it will develop your skills: your wit, your ability to disagree, your ability to set boundaries and state your values, your ability to judge, your ability to deal with criticism, rejection, even insults, as well as bounce back from the gaffes and mistakes that happen in all conversations. Have a hobby like that, and then, when you meet random strangers in bars, it'll be much easier to talk to them.
Depth: you need to have a mission, a purpose, a passion that goes beyond sex and women. As said in the previous section, there's no substitute for passion. This is why broke artists and musicians often get laid more than rich businessman. Yes, of course, spend some time searching and choose carefully. "I have a passion for Roblox" won't get you very far. If you are at all interested in music, the arts, photography, or cinema, you should pursue that - the ability to appreciate physical and artistic beauty is catnip for many women. But any passion is better than none. Men love a man with a mission, any mission, even in areas that are nerdy/non-feminine. It shows you don't put pussy on a pedestal -- there are other things that are important to you. Start searching for your passion(s) now. You're in college, so you'll never have a better time to experiment. And remember that sometimes you have to stick with something before you can really enjoy it. Personally, I wish I'd gone to more than one session of the dance club in college.
If you start thinking about every one of these things today, and start the work now, you will be getting laid at a decent rate within a year, and like a rockstar when you hit your mid-20s. Remember, women start with value and must resist temptation (unhealthy food/substances, being a whore) to keep it. Men start with zero value and must seize it from the world. Stop spending time in your heard worrying about the past, the future, or what people think of you -- in short stop THINKING so much and start DOING - and you'll be amazed at how fast that value increases.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 7mo ago
Can't read this all rn but you're a jacked 6'4" dude
I think you're problem is you do not know how to vibe with women. Not other stuff
User4566 7mo ago
Nah, I’m not jacked but I am stronger than average with a 275 bench and about a 315 squat and 350 DL.
I’m at about 13% bf but my abs are kinda dick. I will work in them much more now. The thing is, bars and clubs are a nightmare for me because all I see are hot chicks that I feel are only looking for guys who have their shit together. Sure, I have my height, my looks (objectively speaking), and my decent but above average physique, but I am still a loner.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 7mo ago
Your field reports give the impression that you don't know how to vibe with women. Like the dude who's unsure of himself and can't move past a cordial chat to something more interesting and engaging
User4566 7mo ago
You’re right. Idk how to vibe with chicks. Do you have any advice on that?