I know that this is low interest in general. But this is the very first time shes done it with me. She always counteroffers when she can. This is the first brief "No" I got from her. To be exact it was a "No I cant make it at 5pm" with no context or reschedule after. There was nothing established here.
In the past I broke up with a LTR who did this to me, and people said it was really stupid, that its not so black-and-white with more established girls.
But sometimes when i get hit with it, i just view it as it is. And if theres no counteroffer I think the worst and figure its the ghosting starting.
In my context, my fwb said she cant make it at 5pm today. Is that grounds to never ask her again? For some context she tried to meet up with me earlier this week and i had told her she confirmed a bit late and i have other plans. She even texted me later the next day. So with that in context, i dont think shes fading me out.
Any insight would be appreciated. Should no counteroffer = terminating the fwb relationship? Or is there more leeway for established girls?
For some context I did offer a reschedule again, i think i will have more clarity on the situation after she responds. If she does it again, I think i know.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
Is she your girlfriend?
No.
Go radio silent and fuck other women.
Be a different story if this was her 5th time or you had a lot of other issues in the past
Why are you trying to burn a lead that might return to fuck you. Go fuck other women, stop being retarded and gay
mattyanon Admin 1mo ago
Yep yep yep :)
Hondurak 1mo ago
I offered a reschedule without being butthurt because it seemed like a one-off. Did i fuck that up?
And i have been fucking other women. Had a bad lay earlier this week.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
No.
You have a roster, act like it
Hondurak 1mo ago
Yeah unforunately my n-count is higher end, i find myself wanting more intimacy and a bit more ltr-seeking than lay piling. The other lay i had was a decent looking girl, but i dont want to fuck her again.
It just was lackluster. I prefer high quality girls with a lot of chemistry and ++ if they like me the sex is better and vibes.
So yeah i no longer "roster" mediocre lays. Im not 20 years old anymore with an ego/scarcity. I only roster potential LTR prospects unless Im in a severe drought.
She actually agreed to meet me tomorrow with my reschedule.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
You still need better inner game man.
And i remember your relationship falling apart a year ago. If you want more "intimacy etc" you're going to have to adjust way more than this surface level stuff
Hondurak 1mo ago
Yeah bc I was too alpha. I told myself Id be more relationship-oriented or bluepill generally.
Old me from a year ago wouldve maybe cut her off today.. Also keep in mind Im in South America, im dealing with legit 8's+ in countries that are known to have the most beautiful women in the world. Im literally dealing with upper echelon women, so pardon me if i let them get in my head just a little bit. These arent little hb5 bar skanks from USA with no manners that Im trying to cuff. I wouldnt give those girls even 1/8th the rope i give to these women out here i deal with.
Its funny when guys tell me to dismiss them at the drop of the dime. These are literally upper tier women from the elite beautiful countries on earth. And im cumming in them, so theres a bit of attachment. I would like to see them cut off one of these for minor infractions. A lot of Americans come here and get owned out here by these women thinking its easy but their not.
Im cumming in tan gym-tier Brazilian and Colombian 22 year old ass. You need to compete with favela bad boys and narco boys who give them tingles more than some rich white guy from USA who they own for resources and cheat on them. The men out here are not beta boys, they generally run more alpha than mgtow American lone wolves and feminized gen Z soyboys or guys in monk mode
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
Right but at the same time you gotta fix your inner game first
Diabs 1mo ago
Wow look at the pedestal you're putting these south American women on no wonder you keep fuckin it up.
Typo-MAGAshiv 1 1mo ago
Women are women.
from perhaps the most important Red Pill post ever, Roissy's Sixteen Commandments Of Poon:
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
Second comment.
The problem I'm all your posts isn't what various girls are doing.
The problem is YOU
You are treating these recreational lays like your girlfriends. You're the problem. Go get a roster and stop letting your ego be involved in what your wet holes do. They're already fucking you.
It takes a special kind of ego to have multiple chicks and still be this emotionally masturbatory over one of them that isn't your gf
The problem is your ego, you're going to keep having questions like this to AskTRP because instead of addressing your ego you're asking about dumb situations that are downstream of bigger problems
Not to mention, you also say you're "busy" and don't fuck them when they want to meet. So you can't have it both ways dude.
Hondurak 1mo ago
She confirmed a few hours before, I had new plans already. The other time I was already busy on a Friday.
For the record I have no issues with her being unavailable for me. Im not immature and entitled to her time. My concern was just the lack of counteroffer (for the first time). I just wanted to know if i was dooming as it being the beginning of the end, of if its just a "not today". Based off your reply, it seems to me that its OK. That was my only question. I just wasnt sure if the fwb was broken for good.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
Great, you have options, act like it
She's recreational use only is she not????
Who cares you already fucked her.
Dude you have far bigger inner game problems than what one singular hoe is doing or not doing. This being from your posting history going well over a year back
You have serious inner game issues. That's your actual problem
Testme 1mo ago
If she did not counteroffer or follow up, then obviously her desire has decreased.
The likelihood is that she has found a better option than you. The only way to fix that is to increase your value.
Also, if you are projecting sexual neediness, then that can be a turnoff.
Hondurak 1mo ago
I actually offered a reschedule myself, since it was the first time she did it, and i was unavailable the past two times. She agreed to meet me tomorrow.
Do you think that still indicates lower interest?
Testme 1mo ago
Possibly, or she could also simply be playing games and not trying to look desperate.
If she texted you later on her own initiative, then that is effectively a counteroffer because by texting you she is inviting you to invite her again. So, as long as that text was her initiative and not a reaction to something you did, then she is probably interested.
mattyanon Admin 1mo ago
Yeah man, I hear you. I've no interest in low interest / low effort girls.
The problem with low effort is that it means no investment which causes decreased interest.
For me it works like this....
"No" and then no counter offer means either she's backing off a bit with her interest levels or she's too busy or she's getting lazy.
Doesn't matter which.... she's backed off, so I back off.... which means IGNORING HER. I simply don't respond any further for a few days at least. If she comes back with "hi... how are you... did I piss you off" after a few days, I just say "all good, busy busy" and let her chase a bit.
If she doesn't chase, she gets a low effort prod after a few days.
If that doesn't work, NEXT.
Don't let them get lazy my dude..... don't let them get lazy. You're the prize, demand your price.
Hondurak 1mo ago
The context is basically we have had some weird scheduling mishaps this week. Specifically with me getting a new job and seeing another girl (I much prefer this one). For example she wanted to hang out on Monday but i was already with another girl, so I told her "I cant tonight" with no fluff. I reached out and we had something set up for Thurs but she confirmed a bit late and i already had plans. She actually hit me up the next day after on Friday but i was already with the other girl..
So i turned her down 3x on accident last week. Bc of this being a one-off thing i figured i would reschedule on my own accord, ive been too unavailable. Anyways she accepted for tomorrow. But next time she does it, i think its smart to back off. Its just that the past week i had a week of basically pulling away myself (on accident), plus she knows im dating another girl, so i think the dread of that combined with me being genuinely busy/unavailable was overkill.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
You can't turn girls down on repeat dude. If they are worthless no self worth whores they'll keep trying but if they have any respect it piles up. Women like a guy who is a challenge but not a guy who constantly rejects them. Women feel rejected too after a certain point man
Feyd0 1mo ago
Fucking hell. Stop over analysing everything.
"OK cool"
Go fuck other women, hit her up again another time. If it happens again, just leave the ball in her court and go about your life.