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@iTheCash because I had some stuff I wanted to say, but didn't have the time when I said that, and I knew I'd forget. Honestly, I probably still would have if you hadn't replied. I do that sometimes.
ANYhooooo....
Being an unattractive incel up until 19...
...always hit a brick wall when it is time to wrap the pursuing up and advance to the next stage, be it a relationship or sex. I am 22 now and the lack of experience, is starting to severely get to me.
By definition, you're still an incel. Incel means INvoluntary CELibate. Nothing more or less.
You want sex, yet are celibate.
But onto more important matters...
the first youtuber I stumbled upon that served as the gate to the rabbit hole, was called Better Bachelor.
I like Joker and his YouTube channel, even though he got a lot of his content from us at WAATGM when he was first starting out receipt one and receipt two without crediting us. Turnabout is fair play though, as I get a good bit of shit from him now that he does that for a living and has tons of followers submitting material to him.
For all that I enjoy his content, it's mostly only good as RP/MGTOW entertainment. He has very little in the way of actionable information.
The best YouTube channel for that by far is Rian Stone's. He doesn't bat 1000 (no one does), but he's dammed good.
But what's better than YouTube is the sidebars at the various manosphere subreddits (TRP, MRP, WAATGM, WATGMA) as well as many of the posts and comments at all of them.
There are also some blogs that are helpful. That's where I got my start. Rollo Tommasi's The Rational Male is still updated occasionally (his YouTube is mostly entertainment, but his blog is excellent), and Roissy/Heartiste is archived in a few places.
[stuff about "maxxed"]
That's black pill and incel talk. You don't have to "max" shit.
I need to get back to RL in a few so I don't have time to dig up links, but if you use this site's search feature with the following strings, you can find where I've discussed some of this before:
+magashiv +built +ogre
+magashiv +pack
+magashiv +max
+magashiv +dressing +well +overrated
When it comes to your particular problem:
1) Read more Red Pill. Eliminate consuming black pill.
2) don't worry about "maxxing" shit.
3) escalate escalate escalate! It's better to get rejected outright and move on to other targets than to pussyfoot around and have her wonder if you're a homo because you failed to escalate, and you'll likely never fuck without being the one to instigate, isolate, and escalate.
Read those sidebars.
Read More@SeasonedRP I recognize that, I was more so commenting on the fact that most people involved seem to gravitate towards the opinion of working corporate and climbing the ladder being part of bettering yourself. Insinuating that that is the best goal to strive towards.
@TiberiusBravo87 As @Typo-MAGAshiv says there is a lot of money to be made working skilled trades, certainly the max potential is nowhere near the same, but how many people achieve the max potential climbing ladders or being entrepreneurial or so on. To earn a lot working white collar youre going to have to spend a lot of time and potentially a lot of money getting an education, and you're probably still going to start out earning the same $30k barely making ends meet, needing to put time and effort into constantly hunting a better offer and grinding away to reach the top. Whereas with blue collar you start out with that $30k with 0 education, and then you can put in some time in a trade school and earn more.
Personally I am not as well off as Typo, I am in that no education section, although I do potentially want to get an education in some trade and earn more. I dont think I could ever pull off university or white collar work though, or if I could I would probably be miserable the entire time. Not everyone working blue collar will be like me but personally I barely flunked out of high school and I honestly dont think I could go back to that kind of learning or do work in any sort of similar capacity.
Read More@Typo-MAGAshiv I don’t think so. Does not match my experience, though I’m from Central Europe. But @aftsov has a point in that there’s a LOT of girls who have done porn in the US. I think we all know the type of girl who is a bit too keen on sex talk and needs a lot of attention even at a young age. These are the chicks who do all kinds of stuff. I guess from experience this is like 10-20% of girls max. But that would be a lot of girls.
Do you have any recommendations btw which ones to follow nowadays?
Naw, after almost every sub I liked such as the_wall, TheHonkPill, bruh_funny, clownworld, consoomproduct, and others got banned, I pretty much stuck to just WAATGM and its child sub.
It didn't help that this coincided with my RL getting incrementally busier over the last few years, and when I was invited and took on mod duties at WAATGM and WATGMA, I stopped even looking at the few other subs I liked (MRP, TRP, MGTOW, & MGTOW2) except once in a blue moon.
And of course, I got permanently suspended from that triggered tranny shithole a few months ago.
I'm already following yours.
I mainly created that as an image dump because we disabled direct image uploads at WAATGM, and I fucking hate imgur. I started dumping other images there too just not to lose them.
I'm permanently suspended, and I have the spam fillers set to max for both posts and comments, so there won't be anything new there ever again.
Read MoreAre you going to convert to her religion? Do you think that she and her family will believe that your conversion (that just so happens to correspond with meeting her) is real? A religion isn't a team jersey you pick because you like the colors: you choose a religion because you accept the truth claims of that religion - not because some girl with a pretty face goes to a particular church.
I said something similar, but fucker beat me to it!
As a side note: the "-max" lingo comes from the black-pill / incel subculture. I understand what you mean by it, but it marks you as a guy who's long on theory and short on experience. You seem to think that getting a woman who matches the items on a checklist is the natural outcome of you matching the items on a checklist. It rarely works out like that in the real world.
Strongly second this, @OffWorldEterna.
I'll use myself as an example, discussing "looksmax" and "gymmax".
A lot of dudes think that you need to have a 6-pack, or it's over! and you'll die a virgin.
You just need not to be soft, and have a V-shaped torso. I look like a cross between Shrek in human form and Wreck It Ralph. I did really well when I was single, and I still get a shit-ton of IOIs from women ranging from teenagers up through post-menopausal.
The few times I had a 6-pack, I did not see any results that made the effort of getting and maintaining it worth it.
I say it all the time, but I'd rather drink a 6-pack than have a 6-pack.
You need balance in your life, as well. A lot of dudes who are so into their 6-packs are 1-dimensional and hollow.
Drink a 6-pack with the woman and cut loose and have fun. As long as you're still muscular, you'll be miles ahead of shredded bozo with no sociability.
Read More@Typo-MAGAshiv has never seen
guys with tree-trunk legs and noodle arms.
That's because we've never met in person. My max bench is around 90 pounds before bad things start to happen, and the orthopedic surgeon I had a consult with told me that he couldn't help me. OTOH, my legs look and feel like they came from a Greek statue made of marble.
The most common reason I see people stall out is that their egos won't let them learn from better lifters and they stick with the same dead end routine forever.
That was my problem for a while.
The flipside, though, is that almost everyone thinks they know shit. I had a twig-ass platoon sergeant trying to tell me shit, and I warmed up with his max. It's difficult to know when someone is just trying to assert dominance by pretending to know shit and when they actually do know shit and are genuinely trying to help.
A) the mods probably have the spam filters set to max, which automatically removes posts by anyone who isn't on the list of approved users. I did that to ours at WAATGM in response to brigading back when I still had access to reddit. Many subs do that, and if your post is off-topic and/or low-quality, they'll likely leave it removed. Which brings me to...
B) judging by the removal reasons listed by the mods of askMRP and that violet capsule pointless bickering sub and the fact it was removed without a mod bothering to tell you why at men's rights, your post was likely an unhinged, anger-phase "waaah I hate wahmyns" rant of questionable quality.
Check it out: just about all of us went through the anger phase when we first unplugged. It's normal, and it's certainly justified to be angry when you discover you've been lied to for your entire life.
However, anger clouds the mind and impairs judgment. It's important to move through your anger and come out the other side with a clear head.
Women generally aren't evil or malevolent any more than men are; they just act out of instinct and emotions and try to do post-hoc rationalizations when questioned. If you learn how they operate and what buttons to push and what sort of women to avoid, your life will be better.
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