Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago Stickied
They aren't blind.
They're bitter.
Western women, from puberty to the wall, are not accustomed to competing for men. They are accustomed to being passive participants in their lives and having men line up to present dating opportunities. When they see the men they feel entitled to (the high SMV/MMV ones) passing them by for younger, hotter, more agreeable, less slutty versions of themselves they lose their fucking minds.
Here is where the problem lies.
They can't shame the younger women into choosing men their own age, because it would make them hypocrites and the younger women know it. They can't convince the younger women to abandon hypergamy, because the younger women know exactly why the older ones would be trying to get them to do so. They can't compete with the younger women because the younger women, by default, have more of what men want (youth, beauty, fertility, cooperativeness) and less of what they don't (dicks inside them).
So, the older women should find another way right? They can no longer rely on just the offering of holes and a good time to secure a man, didn't a lifetime of experience teach them anything about how to make men happy? No. No it did not because women weren't listening (and still don't) when men told them what we wanted. Older women don't want to change nor do they have the capacity. So what's the only play they have left?
To try to shame the men out of our preferences by equating a perfectly normal dynamic (as seen literally everywhere else in the world) to pedophilia. Older women have to try to get men to abandon their optimal strategy so that they can have a chance at securing a man.
It's really manipulative and disgusting.
So I'll continue to fuck 20 something's with no remorse and I'll continue to treat post wall women like the bowling balls they are... Put things in their three holes and toss them away like every other Tyrone has done before me.
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Excellent analysis.
Makes me think of latin-american cultures where its normal for some smoking-hot-as-fuck chick to be with an older man, and they don't make a big deal out of it.
I'm so tired of what passes for "available" in the USA. (I mean the mainstream bullshit definition of it, of course.)
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I'll take it one step further.
If a woman is available in a non-western country it's because there are no suitable men to pair her up with. I'm good with this assumption because in the normal world, access to wives is highly controlled by family and you actually have to have your shit together to get a wife.
In this bloopie clownfuck, if a woman is single, it's because she's broken. Western men are among the most sought after men in the world because we have the resources, status, physicality, and mindset that father's want for their daughters (which is why western men KILL overseas). If a woman is complaining about how she can't find a man here, it's not the men - it's her.
An attractive woman attracts all men, it is her choices that shape her experiences with men.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
pure gold.
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Again, you've got it down solid.
Looking at the post picture again, that girl is happy as fuck to be with him. Just the look, its goddamn priceless when a woman is totally aligned with you like that. And being fit and young is a bonus of course.
Boar_excrement Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Excellent insight. I would add that most women are not afraid of hypocrisy: that is what the hamster is for. Well, that and many other rationalizations....
kevin32 Ambassador for NiceGuys™ 1y ago
Awarding you Sr. Hamster Analyst flair for this and other comments.
@moorekom, @Typo-MAGAshiv
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
Hell yeah
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 1y ago
Agreed. This is a good comment and we should probably highlight it here on forums via a separate post as you usually do.
@problematic_browser, welcome to the fold. With each flair upgrade comes more responsibility. Please help us guide men to become better.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago
Note to self... do NOT accidentally use @Ploblematic_Brower 's ball at the next "He Man Woman Haters Club" bowling night.
Boar_excrement Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
No need to oil the lanes.....
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
holy crap! that's DISGUSTING!
Oddest-One-Here 1y ago
If you put your fingers in the holes, is that rape?
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
only if the ball is over 35 years old apparently. But be careful, the ball may end up owning your house.
NotaBene Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Women are more willing than men to compromise values based on how they're feeling at the time. Men use language like "that's my hill to die on" while women just run to another hill.
It's actually a strength in the right situation. Under a "good" man's authority, a woman can be flexible, steerable, trainable. I've seen it first hand. But what we're seeing in general is this quality unrestrained by authority or consequences.
Oh, they can, and they do. Being hypocrites doesn't stop them from trying. Women exist in a fierce dominance hierarchy that's mostly invisible to us, the female pecking order. They are downright brutal to each other for a leg up.
Exactly right, to take out the competition they can either reduce the number of women prettier/younger than they are (literally the "snow white" witch hunting down the pretty girls), or increase the number of thirsty men.
The more feminists get what they want, the less they are happy. Interesting times ahead.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Here's my analysis using The Hill analogy: Older women are spotted by the young as hypocrites and modern women crave acceptance and validation by superior women (The Mean Girls). They choose to blame men, particularly "all" men, because that's a hill they can take even if it's not the correct one. They like to blame men, particularly the men they aren't attracted to (or their orbiters) because that's at least an illusion of achievement or, as the joke goes: If you have a bad day at work and can't yell at your boss, or your wife, you kick the dog.
This is similar to Rush Limbaugh's simplified trope that feminism is about making ugly women feel validated. Women who crave the 5 percent not just of men, but of social status such as being a Nobel prize winner or even socialite, direct their anger against "men", "The Patriarchy" but even then, they NEED The Patriarchy to support them (they'd starve quite quickly) so "The Patriarchal Oppression" they attack are the janitor, the guy who said something mildly offensive they file an HR complaint against, or some teenager at a counter who didn't make change for her fast enough so she Karen complains to his manager to get him reprimanded. She did "good" for the world that doesn't recognize her as The Qween she is.
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Good point, the ugly older chicks will take any attention, so they crank up the bitch-o-meter and try to shame shit into shape, but it doesn't really work.
MidgetSpinner 1y ago
It doesn't work at all, especially when men can see it. No one wants to be with an ugly older chick, AND a cranky manipulative one.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
And once a bowling ball, always a bowling ball.
They can screech about their experience and maturity all they like, but levels in slut do not a good housewife make.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I heard it best put in video game terms:
"Maxing out your talent points in the 'slut' talent tree doesn't give you 'housewife' class unlocks."
Edit: fuck it, let's go
Men understand a basic tenet of the world: you get what you fucking deserve, if you're lucky. My male friends talk big shit about wanting to lift with me and I tell them "if you wanted it, you'd do it." Do I hear mewling? Nope. They accept that they haven't done the work so they don't get the results. The words "I deserve..." don't ever leave their fucking mouths. (I also don't hear words like "manifesting" and "Capricorn" which is a plus when your only friends are men.)
My friends accept the outcomes of their choices. I've got gym/college/military class unlocks and they have theirs. It's not a matter of debate, it's just "what did I spec into?"
Women? Women think they can do whatever the fuck they please and that when they're done, they can choose the class bonuses that they want. I know women who literally take a different man home every weekend and expect a man to date them like they're virgins. I know fat broads who are genuinely confused as to why they don't have gym girl opportunities. Do you know why?
Because when you live life in the tutorial mode from puberty to post-carousel, there is nobody to tell you "you speced your character wrong and now you're useless to the raid."
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
LOL the "Slut Talent Tree"
Oh my sides, nice one
NotaBene Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Are you saying I can't bring my feral druid to MC?
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Not resto?
NotaBene has been removed from the raid.
NotaBene Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Wait wait at least I'm not an oomkin!
TAKE ME WITH YOU
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 1y ago
Hey now, I mained a (b)OOMkin back in the day. Sure, I didn't get any raid spots, but none o' those pansy-ass pointy-eared healer types had my sweet Chris Farley dance mo(o)ves.
At least that was what I consoled myself with after once again getting steamrolled in PvP by raid-geared assholes who, based on how they played, had obviously never set foot in a BG prior to their farming me for HKs.
@Problematic_Browser
NotaBene Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I still have a screenshot of topping the meters in MC as a feral, before feral was even considered an option. One of the guys in the raid is like, "Why is Nota on the meters?" Because I was "supposed" to be healing, hahaha. Classic.
At least you could run flags all day right?
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 1y ago
True, though WSG was probably my least favorite BG, if only because of how often it devolved into idiots farming HKs in the middle.
What I really want is a proper successor to City of Heroes. WoW was fun and all but there are thing CoH got right a year before it released that every other MMO since still gets wrong.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
LMAO
we seem to have a mini-theme this weekend.
But yes, I love how these same women who dated older men when they were in their twenties, while telling the young men in their age cohort "we don't owe you anything!" will whine and complain when those same men now ignore them in favor of younger, hotter, and tighter.
Turnabout is fair play, women.
Men don't owe you anything, either, let alone commitment to your used-up droopy asses.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I will say that we do owe them something that we aren't giving them:
Honest feedback about why they're not getting their calls returned, why they can't get dates after they give up the guts, why "let's go out" gradually became "u up, wanna come by?", why they are getting asked to do progressively degrading sex acts to get decreasing amounts of return from decreasingly attractive men.
Oh well, fuck em. They can't handle the truth anyways.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Even when they dated around their same age, they dated the hottest dudes. Those dudes are out of their league now. So they’re mad that the dudes that they used to relentlessly friend zone or ignore are now actually above them as well.
Loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 1y ago
Are you suggesting that wymynZ ought to be..... CONSISTENT.......??????!?!?!?!!!!!!
Consistency is a tool of the patriarchy you muh soggy knees stick pig!!!!!!!
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
Back to re-education camp for me!
SpiritualEnema Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Leo DiCaprio’s dating life is the antidote to Oneitis. Even on the higher end of the spectrum they aren’t one in a million, they’re one of a million.
The lesson for men? Don’t purchase, short term leases are preferable.
chunky 1y ago
If it floats, flies or fucks, it's always better to rent.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 1y ago
Looks like someone has kicked off a meme-storm this weekend.
Oddest-One-Here 1y ago
"A lion doesn't concern itself with the opinion of mutton".
Lionsmane8 1y ago
Fuck them.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
You hear this a lot over in Thailand. The Asian women look 10 years younger than Western hoes plus guys are having kids with them so a dude walking around with his own kid is now labeled a pedophile because he's white and the kid isn't. A dude walking around with his same-age wife is labeled a pedophile. If you're a single guy overseas you're labeled a sex tourist and all the girls are trafficked.
Just the other day some bitch accused me of buying my wife and making her my slave. Next they say you have small dick energy. Talk about desperation...
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Hehehe. I married my foreign wife back in 2004 and I heard background noise 2nd hand that many of my women relatives were referring to her as a Green Card Whore. I was happy they did so because that undermined their ability to HiveMind her into the Western Sisterhood to turn her against me. Women can sense body language and tone very well particularly if someone, another woman, is being condescending towards her. It's a HUGE turnoff to them so when American women did this, consistently, she developed an innate distrust for them and never went fully "native". Which Is OK By Me. Our BBQs host a variety of ex-pats speaking English as a Second Language from around the world and it's amusing to me, like Walt Kowalski in Gran Torino, that I had more in common with people from wildly different cultures than I did my own. This forum and others are the times I feel a strong mental connection with fellow born westerners.
I'm sure it must irk older women to no end that I have a pretty wife and family and many of them do not because, well, it should. Imagine being born a lottery winner and at age 30, you're living in a crack shack because you're too lazy to even try to get out of your situation but someone whose born poor is living a much better life. Success is (one of) the best forms of revenge.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
My mom and sisters tried to pay my wife to leave me after years of trying to turn her against me. It must irk them to no end having her say shit like "no that's a sin" or "no I don't do that because I love my husband". She's spoiled rotten for a husband compared to her country and she knows it. And I'm spoiled rotten for a wife compared to my country. Just drives Western women up the wall.
NotaBene Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
These women can't stand to see a good wife. It's everything they always dreamed of but can never have. They seethe when they see a happy, submissive wife.
Bonus points when the guy is poor, like me, and she's still somehow happy. Their little feminist brains just can't make sense of it. They try and try and then cry themselves to sleep every night.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
The 40yr olds at the gym give my wife the dirtiest looks when we work out together and she has her ring on and they don't. Those women are all saggy and drooping and out of shape thinking they can do better than me when reality shows up and pops their delusion bubble. I just walk by them and let a little silent fart go.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Great point. Every single objection is pure jealousy or abandonment rage. Life is so unfair!!!! They accuse white men of having an Asian fetish. What we really have is a non bitch fetish.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Why is it even bad to have a fetish? Some people have toe fetishes. I have a naughty librarian fetish. I don't even think racial preference qualifies as a fetish. Maybe it's racist but definitely not a fetish. If it's racist then everyone who prefers any race is a racist. Mixed race people come along and then show how absurd it all is.
Of course the whole point is not fighting racism or fetishism. It's intrasexual competition amongst women. Convincing Asian women that white guys are bad and convincing white guys Asian women are lower value all serves to maximize the pool of available men to white women. I pity the fool who falls for this and ends up settling for the crappiest woman available to him.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
sure - not disagreeing. My observation is that white western women often degrade white men that end up with asian women, by saying that those men have a an asian fetish. As if that explained it all. But they are missing the point -what men really love is women that are agreeable, don't fight them for alpha status, are feminine, know how attractive it is for men when they are submissive.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
There's that aspect plus my dick gets hard looking at them. When I look at American women or hear them talk my dick inverts. I can only think of a few white chicks that actually got me hard. Jennifer Aniston back in the day, Linda Hamilton, Paris Hilton, you know the type. Notice they all have the same features as every Asian woman: long hair, thin, small boobs, flat stomach, boxy frame...
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
PS - I approve of your naughty librarian fetish!
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Oh then you'll love my upcoming book with naughty librarian vampire trans women that lure in unsuspecting straight guys and brainwash them to think they're sleeping with hot women but really they're chicks with dicks and sucking their blood.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
You took a few turns there....imma just going to stick with the ordinary plain regular sexy librarian. Long hair in a bun... glasses.... high heels.. stockings.... but conservatively dressed. Why mess with a classic?
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Yeah I don't predict it'll be a best seller. It does have all the elements of a classic horror story. Maybe instead of trans women I should have fat old chicks.
NotaBene Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I'm thinking you liked Lisa Loeb back in the day hahaha
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
I still like Lisa Loeb.
houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 1y ago
I wonder, do these same jealous women express the same outrage at the actual push for pedophilia by child groomers? If they are so concerned about someone targeting a young, impressionable person, there is a much greater concern when the target is an actual child rather than a legal adult who is otherwise given every other legal right that all adults can do, including freedom of association in relationships.
Otherwise, we can just do things the old fashioned way by having the man be required to appeal to the father in order to have permission to court his daughter. Perhaps that may seem like patriarchy, and that's because it is! It is far more reliable at weeding out bad men than the current system we have where women often do not prove to be very good judges of character.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Patriarchy produced the best outcomes for women and children at the expense of men. It just felt fair because the risk and reward of maintaining society was evenly diffused among all men so no one group reaped all the rewards while another ate shit.
Thanks to women sMaShiNg tHe PaTrIARchy, they're free to just run amok, ping-ponging between the top tier men and leaving even above-average men devoid of the rewards of maintaining society.
The damning part is that these men will still do their jobs, but how long can you tell a man "trade your life to build a future when you have no future?" That's what we are seeing today - an entire generation of men checking out and saying "fuck it" to a lifetime of working hard only to get the leftovers, if they get anything at all.