Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
houseoftolstoy
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
- 4. No brigading, doxxing or witch-hunting. Do not look for the individuals posted here, nor ask or give their personal info/social media, nor ask or give the source or you will be banned and reported to the admins. See here and here.
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5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
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5b. No posts of women who are merely fat, post-wall, unattractive, seeking sex or money, nor women merely behaving badly. (Examples NOT allowed)
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6. No personal information in dating profiles or social media accounts. Take a screenshot and censor all names, social media, hometown, school, and place of work. Additionally, censor any children's faces if their mommy included them in any profile photos.
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Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 1y ago Stickied
Consider the men who she claims "don't have a problem" with her body count. Is is possible that they are simply willing to say whatever they think they need to say in order to get sex? Of course a man who just wants sex is not going to make a big deal out of a woman having a high body count. Because he figures that he has a better chance of success at hitting and quitting it. It is easy to say you are looking for a committed relationship and then say "it just is not working for me" once you get what you want.(1)
But she mistakenly thinks that the older men she is targeting are unique in wanting to know what they are getting into if they are going to be committing themselves to a woman. No, they are not different. The men her age will also ask these same questions if they are looking to commit to a woman, whether they are ready now or are ready years later. What good does it do a man to marry a woman who places no value in sexual restraint? Such a woman is likely to pull the pin on the marriage the moment she does not feel like it any more. And more likely than not, she will suddenly discover the concept of sexual restraint with her own husband. This sort of scenario is the inverse of what any man would want, and I am sure they have this in the back of their mind when they find out about her promiscuous past.
kevin32 Ambassador for NiceGuys™ 1y ago
@houseoftolstoy, would you update your comment here with a variation of this statement?
At the end of statement "...so many men are going to see a commitment to such a woman as far too costly when they consider the cost of sex to be cheap with her.", please add "A woman who places no value in sexual restraint is more likely to cheat or initiate divorce since her past demonstrates the ease at which she goes from man to man."
I will then update the sidebar with the revision, as more women should know the risks that men consider when committing to a promiscuous woman. Thank you.
houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 1y ago
It has been updated.
kevin32 Ambassador for NiceGuys™ 1y ago
Thank you.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 1y ago
It's very simple. She is looking for a more mature and secure man than she could possibly get. The men she want want the same thing: they want a more mature and a secure woman. She is not it.
slowlylearning1 1y ago
Nailed it! 100%
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Yup. Those men know that a woman with a past of not keeping her legs closed will also have a future of doing the same.
A learned behavior of fucking whomever suits a momentary fancy does not make for fidelity later on.
Now if she had only been with one guy, but fucked him 37+ times, there would be another reaction entirely.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Yeah, I’d give a pass to a woman who has had a few failed long term relationships. That’s really not a big deal, since she hasn’t been whoring herself out. I mean I’d rather she didn’t have any past, but that’s not really feasible in 2023 unless you’re an absolute Gigachad.
But if she’s slept with 37 guys, that means that she’s either caught feels for a ton of men, or she’s completely jaded and likely a relationship mercenary. Or a little of both.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
A) fucker beat me to it!
B) that, and younger men who haven't come into their own yet usually can't be as picky as a guy 30+ who has far more options.
C) and additionally, younger men like that may not have learned some of life's harsh lessons yet, such as yes,, it does matter and is an excellent predictor of a woman's relationship potential.
But mostly what you said.
ZZoMBiE13 1y ago
"A) fucker beat me to it!"
When it comes to this young lady, pretty much every man she's ever met beat you to it. (ba-dum, tss)
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Exactly - beat me to it as well.
I recall how it was in my early 20's - you'd say whatever it took to get the goodies. It's sooo hard to get laid in your late teens and 20s.
As usual, she is confusing the criteria that men have for getting laid (basically none) and the criteria that we have for an Wife/kids (very strict criteria).
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
From college, I recall the standards we had for getting laid were 'a pulse'. But over time, we agreed that that particular standard was too high, and reduced it to 'body still warm'. Those are the standards of 20's guys. This stupid slut is boasting that she has given out the sweeties to 37 guys, as if that makes her something special, as if that is proof that she is desirable. She has no idea how low our standards are (amongst young men). I read some dudes post about having fucked a leather sofa. You know, after a few drinks....in the right light.... Dude did say that the post nut shame was epic.
Without having met this chick I'm going to assume that she's below 5, because at that age group only below average looking women put out to that degree. Its the only thing that they can do to get male attention.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
It is kind of funny. It’s why I encourage dudes to always aim high. Pretty girls are often better in other relevant areas as well, like not having an urge to whore themselves out for random men (probably because they’re accustomed to getting the pick of the litter kind of guys and have no need to behave in that manner)
nicknack 1y ago
To add to this, the pretty girls who come from the kind of broken backgrounds, or are just born with mental illness, that leads them to suck and fuck everything don’t stay pretty for long. They hit the wall really early thanks to all the partying and late nights, tattoos, drugs, alcohol, etc.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Yup. I knew one of those. By 16, dudes were already lining up to date her. Naturally pretty face and thin. But she had a lot of turmoil at home, and parents who didn’t discipline her enough. She also got raped by a dude (like man actually did time, not next day regret stuff) at 15, which really made her whore herself out a ton. I was friends with her, and I couldn’t keep track of the new cock that she was inserting herself with. Eventually got in a relationship with a 24 year old at 17 (yup, he couldn’t wait a year) who was a prototype of a “bad boy”. She got pregnant and ended up raising that kid by herself. In fairness to her, she also had health issues that had nothing to do with her promiscuity, but man she looks rough now.
itsandrewbuck 1y ago
"Why are millennials like this"
Because Gen-Z is apparently like...well, you. By the way, don't stop at millennials, Gen-X probably feels like you've been run through too. Using the car analogy, she must think she's a Volvo where 100,000 miles is 'just getting broken in". If she were a '91 Chevy, I'd be looking to trade that in. At 20, she must be like rolling a hot dog down a hallway.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Gen X here. Correct. The drop in marriage rates started with us after we saw our parents and older siblings get absolutely reamed over and over. We just didn't have internet available since we were old enough to type to tell everyone about it right away. Any message we had, would have to go through centrally controlled legacy media at first. Plus we were a smaller generation than either the boomers or millennials, so any volume we could have achieved was throttled on multiple fronts, so any message we could get out was heavily overlaid with 90's irony and sarcasm and in parody form, like Clerks and this song.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Cliff's notes: woman able to get fucked by guys her age, unable to secure commitment from marriage-minded men. More news at 11.
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
No humblebrag, because this skank isn't anything I want to associate with, but there's this town bicycle that has been trying to engage me in conversation, etc... and I'm just giving back heaps of I don't give a fuck. And I truly don't. I'd rather pay an escort for a fuck than touch her, because even though her body is somewhat good, she's been "run through" like the bitch in this post.
I know better, keeps me free of drama and other complications when getting involved with whores.
Whisper one of TRP's originators 1y ago
Interesting how these men are simultaneously "insecure" and "more secure".
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
It's simple, the fucking wallets have money and won't give it to her. Ugh! Wallets are supposed to give her money on demand! Do the wallets think they are human beings with desires and needs of their own or something? Fucking misogynists!
Pic889 1y ago
I am going to go out on a limb and say that her n-count is not what those secure (and yet somehow also insecure) men find to be the deal-breaker. As a millennial, I can tell you we are more liberal when it comes to n-counts if the person is the right one. Her n-count is the excuse they give to her in order to reject her gracefully.
The real problem is that she gives off strong "my fun is all that matters to me" vibes, which most likely means "and now that I am out of college, I want a paypig that will pay for my expenses via divorce so I can continue having my fun".
I mean, nowhere in her post has she bothered to explain why she makes a good wife (or even LTR partner) for a potential man or why she deserves a man's trust. It's all about what she wants from marriage and what the man has to offer to her. And of course she wants it all now, she won't give the man the opportunity to test her in an LTR. Such vibes don't say good things about a woman. And we millennials are much more red-pilled than GenX and can pick up this kind of stuff.
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 1y ago
Dante should look this broad up, maybe he can be 38.
reignoferror00 1y ago
Dante already wrote about her, she encompasses many of the circles of Hell.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
“I gave all of the fun parts of a relationship away to men that didn’t care about me, nor I of them. But now I want better men to do all of the crappy parts of a relationship, like boring weekend excursions, family gatherings, and chores, with less sex than the guys before got. Why aren’t men with money that I actually want to date interested?”
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
And women yammer on about "MaLe eNtItLeMeNt". lol.
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Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
There is quite a lot of bragging to this post as well - she is actually bragging about what a slut she is. To feminist gen Z, sleeping around like an un-paid whore is a virtue, it's a way of showing your SJW credentials.
She may eventually learn (they are very slow) that HVM's dont really want to shack up with ex-whores for an LTR, and she will switch her strategy to lying. But because she is dim witted, she won't be able to hide it. They always tell more about themselves than they want to, mainly because they can't be quiet for more than 10 seconds.
No-Stress-Cat 1y ago
She can lie all she wants, but she done put it out there on the internet already.
Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Chameleons are the worst. I am at that transitory age where I see women I know that were hard core carousel riders in their 20's now post-wall and the makeover into a good girl is astounding. No more club hopping, no more one night stands, burned all their slutty clothes, and most of all sterilized all of their social media and internet footprint like a good old-fashioned Soviet style wipe of their existence. Most of all, they learn to lie and lie well.
She is going to learn, although I suspect she already knows, that HVM dont wife up the village bicycle. So she going to lie and lie well. There is what they say on the internet and what they say in real life. If she does find a HVM, you can be sure all that loud and proud sex positive body count will go out the window.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Their problem there is that in and of itself is a huge red flag. They either need to completely rebuild a social presence from scratch (red flag just like gaps in employment history) or keep some of their old circle around which risks information leaks. Also, when a huge chunk of her social circle are obvious slut-wrecks, that's also a red flag.
One of the most important skills men will acquire is the ability to passively observe social media for either direct slut-sign or indirect slut-sign. And when a woman is past puberty, finger fucks her phone on the regular, and has a borderline blank profile, or one with massive activity gaps, that tells you that you have a stealth slut on your hands.
Granted, these women could try to pretend they've never even seen a smartphone, but let's be real: they are addicts. They won't be able to.
Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
We all have seen many posts of the Blue Pill guy getting a Red Pill by finding out his princess was a gangbang slut before they met. The number one way he finds out is through her so called "friends" accidently letting something slip. Mostly it is drunk jealous frenemy spilling all the beans.
Great points, like if you see clean, very sterile social media that begins at age 29 and is missing her entire 20s, it doesn't take a great detective to get suspicious.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 1y ago
Twenty and already thinking about starting a family. That'd be truly something, if it wasn't for the 37 different guys (assuming she's not downplaying). Going younger is no guarantee, but at least this one hasn't learnt yet how much to lessen her bodycount.
nicknack 1y ago
Because of her given age, this posts just reads as something a man wrote honestly. Since when do 20 year old hoes want to be traditional, they usually wait for 27-35 to start that lie. Unless they have kids, which this one appesrs to have not.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 1y ago
This has as much chance of being true as it does of being fake. There is always a reason why a woman wants anything at anytime.
fskfsk 1y ago
Who would would answer honestly when asked her bodycount? If she sees men getting turned off by a big number, she would start lying.
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nicknack 1y ago
They sometimes “want something real” or an LTR… with Chad or Tyrone. Some of which when they are 20 are high value enough to actually have Chad and Tyrone give that to them. Its very rarely the “established older guy”. Unless of course, hard times are hitting her, probably rent is killing her on her starbucks wage and she cant afford to buy a coffee at work.
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Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
"I'd rather find some one more secure for my future" - I'm not sure what she means? Can anyone who speaks womanese translate this for me?
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 1y ago
Well established aka money and status.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
$tability!
fskfsk 1y ago
Find a rich guy, marry him, stay married for 5-7 years maybe with 1-2 kids, divorce him for cash and prizes.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Just another stupid slut getting big mad that the men she had slated as retirement plans aren't willing to obey the commands of the Kween of Denial.
Doricel 1y ago
Millenials haven't reached middle age yet.
Oddest-One-Here 1y ago
Even the youngest Millennial will turn 27 this year and the oldest Zoomer girls are now too old for DiCaprio.
oddbelt987 1y ago
35-40 is typically considered the start of "middle age." The oldest millennials are 43.
DextroShade 1y ago
37 bodies and she's only 20? Ran-through is an understatement. Any guy who thinks she is good for anything more than a pump and dump is in for a workd of hurt.
nicknack 1y ago
Her Herpes and HPV infested crotch is not even good for a pump and dump anymore, as condoms don’t protect you from either one. Unless you want to spend the rest of your life telling girls you have highly contagious incurable stds before you sleep with them the first time.
houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 1y ago
Hey, she just wanted to have her fun! She can do what she wants! Except get a commitment from the type man she now wants to "settle down with" after giving out sex for cheap to a bunch of other guys.
And yes, 37 is quite a number to have at only 20. Though not because she had to try all that hard.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Hell a double digit n-count period at that age is a major slut sign. No chance of her being able to keep her legs closed around other men while in a relationship. Fuck's sake, I wouldn't even trust a guy with that kind of n-count at that age to stay faithful, it's a huge indicator of absolutely no standards and inability to delay gratification.