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Reply To polishknight - Do single men, like, like, go anywhere without a chaperone?

ogrilla99
1h ago 2025-11-30 10:30:27 WhereAreAllTheGoodMen Forum
Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp

Chaperone? Women are nothing if not creative when coming up with new ways to insult men...

The real question is, why would men bother going out alone? You can drink the same beer at home that you can find at a bar, for probably 1/10th the cost. It's not like there's a chance someone is going to buy you drinks there. Even a coffee shop is pretty dumb these days. The coffee is at least $5/cup for something you can brew yourself for 5 cents. Unless you're meeting someone or hanging out with friends, there's no reason to waste that type of money.

In the past, men had to spend that money, pay the cover charges, etc. just for a chance to meet (and likely be rejected by) women. It's not like men enjoyed paying twenty bucks to stand inside a bar with an overpriced drink in your hand, trying to find a woman to chat up who won't reject you in humiliating fashion. We just had no other choice.

Now we do. Just like women can scroll through 50 matches on tinder while taking a dump, men can stay at home and check their matches, and only go out when they already have a date arranged. And even then, be able to set the terms of the date (like coffee only) before you walk in. And if you have no matches, at least you didn't waste your money or your time at some coffee shop hoping to strike up a conversation.

Women are the ones who make such a big deal about the "constant dangers" lurking behind every restaurant and bar, and what an enormous act of courage and sacrifice it is for them to meet at a public place with a stranger. Or how they brave the risk of permanent trauma from a man who attempts to say hi to her in the grocery store. Why all of a sudden are they saying they miss it?

Stepping back, I think this speaks to yet another way in which feminism is completely blind to the struggles of men. Just like they all wanted to have jobs because "it's so empowering!" (to be a wage slave), completely blind to the drudgery of it because men don't complain. Then they get what they ask for, find out it ain't all it's cracked up to be, then wail about how men need to fix it for them.

In this case, feminists go on and on about the "burden of performance", as if putting on some makeup and not behaving like an entitled shrew is such a burden. Meanwhile, men have a much higher burden of performance: spend money they don't have to show that they're rich, be the one to initiate conversations and carry them through, entertaining the girl like a dancing monkey, all the while taking the risk of humiliating rejection. And now that the risks have increased (being blasted on facebook, risking your job, etc), men are refusing to take on this burden, and women are left wondering why men "no longer make the effort". Bitch, did you think we enjoyed that effort?

It was barely worth it before. Now that the rewards have decreased (the quality of women), while the risks have increased, and there are alternatives in the form of online dating, why is it a surprise we're no longer out in public actively trying to meet women?

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Reply To hhhhdmt - Someone needs to marry and impregnate this 42 year old
[https://www.independent.co.uk/bulletin/news/marry-lisa-billboard-website-catalano-california-b2858306.html](https://www.independent.co.uk/bulletin/news/marry-lisa-billboard-website-catalano-california-b2858306.html) 42 year old Lisa has spent a large sum of money to find a "partner" to settle down and have biological kids with. she rented a dozen digital billboards in...... [more]

Overkill_Engine
6h ago 2025-11-30 05:33:21 WhereAreAllTheGoodMen Forum
WAATGM Endorsed

Her non negotiables:

Must be on board with a monogamous relationship, and dating with the intent for marriage. Must be alright with a timeframe of marriage and starting a family within the next 2-3 years.

College educated. Bachelor's degree at a minimum.

Generally healthy lifestyle is a must. No marijuana, tobacco, psychedelics, or recreational drug use. Good hygiene.

Must be Democratic or liberal or left leaning politically.

Looking for someone who is not particularly religious. Okay with spiritual or non-religious or along those lines.

35-45 age. Flexible within a year or two at most.

Preference is for never married, no kids.

And of course nowhere in that list is any reason why a man able to meet that criteria would want to bother with her.

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Reply To hhhhdmt - Someone needs to marry and impregnate this 42 year old
[https://www.independent.co.uk/bulletin/news/marry-lisa-billboard-website-catalano-california-b2858306.html](https://www.independent.co.uk/bulletin/news/marry-lisa-billboard-website-catalano-california-b2858306.html) 42 year old Lisa has spent a large sum of money to find a "partner" to settle down and have biological kids with. she rented a dozen digital billboards in...... [more]

ogrilla99
2h ago 2025-11-30 09:07:37 WhereAreAllTheGoodMen Forum
Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp

Now let's add on the stuff that's not said: At 42, she will likely require extensive IVF and other fertility treatments to even have a chance for a baby. For anyone who's gone through it, each attempt (including multiple rounds of harvesting eggs, etc) is about $100k. Most of which will not be paid by insurance. And that's if you're lucky and it works. If it doesn't work, then depending on your desperation to have kids, you may go through multiple rounds before giving up. So, you should have at least a few hundred thousand -- not part of retirement or other necessary uses, just free cash lying around -- to blow on IVF within the 2-3 year time frame that she's looking at (which will put her at 45, when the chances are even less)

She is a vintage clothing store seller, meaning her "work" is basically a rich woman's hobby. She has no savings, and her income is barely enough to feed herself in the Bay Area. Possibly, she may still have student debt depending on when she completed her useless bachelors / masters and how many loan deferments she got due to her low income. You will be expected to pay off her loans and pay for her "needs" with your shitty 60-80hr/wk job while she can find "purpose in life" by basically pursuing her hobbies while pretending it's a career.

And about those needs. First and foremost, you will need to buy her a house. In the Bay Area. Where a crapshack next to a drug den costs a million dollars. Which would never do for this princess anyway. Given that she wants kids, she will be expecting to buy at least a 3 bedroom house in a good school district. In the Bay Area. This will be at minimum $3million. Did I mention housing costs in the Bay Area?

She has no retirement funds, no rainy day savings, nothing. Because again, she's working as a vintage clothing retailer in the highest cost living region of the country. In 20 years, she'll be looking to retire from... her glorified WalMart clerk job. If you've been diligently saving for retirement, unexpected health care expenses, building up a 6 month savings cushion in case you lose your job, all those things that financially responsible men do, guess what: double it. Because she's not bringing any resources of her own, and your estimated costs now must cover 2 people. And since she's in her forties and likely you are too, you have less time (about 20 yrs) to do this than someone who's marrying and starting out in their twenties who still has the power of compound interest on his side. And you must make up the shortfall with your own income, since again, she's basically a minimum wage retail worker being outearned by teenagers working at McDonald's.

So to summarize the financial needs that are left unsaid: several hundred thousand in free cash to pursue IVF treatments for the kid she and (presumably) you want. The ability to take on a crushing mortgage for a modest house in the most insanely expensive housing market in the country. And on top of that, double / triple whatever you've been setting aside for retirement and savings to accommodate a middle aged person with no savings herself who will be needing those bailouts fairly soon. All while your costs explode due to having an additional mouth to feed immediately, and possibly another 1 or 2 in the near future.

Making all of this work in the Bay Area requires a minimum of $500k/yr or higher, and really, that's the minimum given that you're starting so late and she's not coming in with anything to help. The only way this normally works is if you're earning $500k and the woman is earning at least $200k/yr in her own job, then she'll at least be able to take care of her own expenses and retirement planning while you take on the mortgage and the household stuff.

The truth is, believe it or not, those guys exist in SF. But the problem is that they're "boring nerds". The women in SF have a saying "the odds are good, but the goods are odd." it's they're entitled way of saying that even living in an area where you can throw a rock and hit a millionaire, or someone about to cash out their stock options to an 8-figure net worth, it's not enough to feed their hypergamy. Those guys must also have the personality of the most charming PUA artist, and the body of a guy who does nothing but surf all day. The fact that to hit their payday, they must spend their entire adult lives staring at a screen in a dark room doesn't really matter to them. Nevermind that the women themselves are mostly boring and definitely less good looking than their counterparts in SoCal or NYC. They'll still demand Chad looks and personality with a computer geek's salary and stock options. And then moan about where are all the good men in a city where men vastly outnumber the women.

So there you have it: someone who makes at least a half mil a year, with about a million dollars in free cash to spend on IVF and a down payment within a few years, enough retirement savings to take on a middle age woman with none herself and catch her up by the time she needs that money, while simultaneously having the personality and body of someone who doesn't make that type of money (at least not in SF). Those are her real requirements. The rest is just window dressing.

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carnold03
2h ago  The Hub

@goreandmills

Why is dating so hard in my 30s when I accept drinks from other men besides the one I’m on a date with?

This story gives off strong Aldus Huxley "Brave New World" vibes. People dehumanized into ignorant drones in an massive insect colony with no families of their own who mob a bar with other strangers all looking to get themselves doped up on, at least in this instance, the seasonal release of Turkey and Ham flavored Soma, so they can numb themselves to the pain of being unloved.

Reply To hhhhdmt - Someone needs to marry and impregnate this 42 year old
[https://www.independent.co.uk/bulletin/news/marry-lisa-billboard-website-catalano-california-b2858306.html](https://www.independent.co.uk/bulletin/news/marry-lisa-billboard-website-catalano-california-b2858306.html) 42 year old Lisa has spent a large sum of money to find a "partner" to settle down and have biological kids with. she rented a dozen digital billboards in...... [more]

mattyanon
3h ago 2025-11-30 08:24:33 WhereAreAllTheGoodMen Forum
TRP Endorsed

She said she did not take dating seriously in her 20's and early 30's.

Translation: cock carousel.

Then she met her fiancé whom she was with for several years but he sadly died of cancer.

Lucky escape!

She then was with a man for a couple of years and he would not commit to her.

Translation: would not sign a one-sided government-enforced provisioning contract.

Preference is for never married, no kids.

Preference is for $$$, but she can filter that out later without having to state it.

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Reply To hhhhdmt - Someone needs to marry and impregnate this 42 year old
[https://www.independent.co.uk/bulletin/news/marry-lisa-billboard-website-catalano-california-b2858306.html](https://www.independent.co.uk/bulletin/news/marry-lisa-billboard-website-catalano-california-b2858306.html) 42 year old Lisa has spent a large sum of money to find a "partner" to settle down and have biological kids with. she rented a dozen digital billboards in...... [more]

First-light
5h ago 2025-11-30 06:25:31 WhereAreAllTheGoodMen Forum
Jr. Hamster Analyst

All this of course relies on her actually being fertile post wall. starting a family 42 to 45 is not a given by any means even if you are a rich liberal Californian and have had everything your way all your life. The wall might say "no".

But go get stuck in boys. Its a high risk of marrying a barren woman but you might get lucky and end up changing diapers at night for a perimenopausal queen who will tell you every day that she gave up her great single life of travel and work to be your wife and suffer this drudgery.

I feel genuinely sorry for her. We all make bad choices but there are no second choices post wall. Women are just not educated well enough these days to know the things that actually matter.

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Reply To hhhhdmt - Someone needs to marry and impregnate this 42 year old
[https://www.independent.co.uk/bulletin/news/marry-lisa-billboard-website-catalano-california-b2858306.html](https://www.independent.co.uk/bulletin/news/marry-lisa-billboard-website-catalano-california-b2858306.html) 42 year old Lisa has spent a large sum of money to find a "partner" to settle down and have biological kids with. she rented a dozen digital billboards in...... [more]

No-Stress-Cat
1h ago 2025-11-30 10:04:21 WhereAreAllTheGoodMen Forum
Jr. Hamster Analyst

So, billboards have become the latest dating app. Go to a website, fill out an application, and see if you qualify. Kind of like going to a website to fill out a loan application or apply for a job. The only difference here is that you're applying to pay money instead of applying to gain money.

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Typo-MAGAshiv
18h ago  The Hub
@Butthead

@MarkedAliveS

confident AF means pain in the ass

Usually, yes. Especially when a woman says it.

Additionally, I have found confidence is one of those "show, don't tell" traits (much like intelligence or kindness or loyalty), and that those who have to say "I'm confident" are usually more accurately described as thin veneer of arrogance masking deep insecurity.

Those who truly are confident don't feel the need to tell others that they are.

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hhhhdmt
10h ago WhereAreAllTheGoodMen Forum

Someone needs to marry and impregnate this 42 year old

https://www.independent.co.uk/bulletin/news/marry-lisa-billboard-website-catalano-california-b2858306.html

42 year old Lisa has spent a large sum of money to find a "partner" to settle down and have biological kids with.

she rented a dozen digital billboards in California’s Bay Area to advertise a website where men could apply to date her.

She said she did not take dating seriously in her 20's and early 30's.

Then she met her fiancé whom she was with for several years but he sadly died of cancer.

She then was with a man for a couple of years and he would not commit to her.

https://www.marrylisa.com/who-lisa-is-looking-for

Her non negotiables:

Must be on board with a monogamous relationship, and dating with the intent for marriage. Must be alright with a timeframe of marriage and starting a family within the next 2-3 years.

College educated. Bachelor's degree at a minimum.

Generally healthy lifestyle is a must. No marijuana, tobacco, psychedelics, or recreational drug use. Good hygiene.

Must be Democratic or liberal or left leaning politically.

Looking for someone who is not particularly religious. Okay with spiritual or non-religious or along those lines.

35-45 age. Flexible within a year or two at most.

Preference is for never married, no kids.

Generally speaking, Lisa is attracted to more clean-cut looking men, slim to medium build, no or minimal tattoos/piercings. She has no height requirement.


Where do i sign up boys?

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