Basic Relationship Needs
Published 02/16/22 by deeplydisturbed [0 Comments]

When I was young and naïve, I had a wish list of sorts for a future wife. It seems fairly common my teenage friends, male and female, would sometimes offer up an item or two from their own lists.

Of course, the teenage and early 20's version of me wanted things like, hot, nice hair, good in bed, easy to hang with, etc. But as I got older, the list became more serious, perhaps more mature, depending on how you view it. So it developed into the things I would hope for my woman to be, and do.

The list was something like this:

Yes, I know. This list is long. But trust me, it is far from comprehensive according to 19 year old me. For example, I do not expect my woman to do ironing, sewing or making clothing, arts and crafts, repairs of any kind, run social groups, or work outside the home, to name just a few of the myriad other "nice to have" competencies.

And while the list is long, most of the items on it are relatively basic features of a good parent or partner.

Where did I get this list, you may ask. I got it from watching the best women around me my whole life. Sure, I got a bit from TV and movies, but the absolute best women around me did these things and more. One never knows all the intimate details of the lives of those around us, but most of these things were on full display most of the time as a child growing up. To this day, most of the good women I know demonstrate most of these traits and behaviors. My ex-wife, in fact, nailed most of them on a daily basis for the better part of two decades - until she underwent her feminist "transformation."

Keep in mind that the phrase "....without complaining" is implied in all this.

Now, one would be reasonable in asking, Yeah, but what about YOUR contributions! And that would indeed be a fair question. And to that I would say, most of the same things PLUS everything else - repairs, outdoor maintenance, heavy lifting, long term vision and goals, family finances, home and personal security, and a long list of other male-oriented responsibilities. Whether these things are fair or balanced can only be answered by those who must balance them.

So after my divorce, I had to decide (hopefully once and for all) what I really need in a partner. I did not want to fall victim to my own male predilection for allowing a woman's attractiveness get the better of me. I also wanted to avoid going for short-term things (like charm, personality, overall attitude) to cloud my long term judgement. Most people can be charming when they want something. And most women can fake being "happy" during the initial stages of courting.

So I then focused almost exclusively on character traits (assuming the initial attraction was there). I also focused like a laser on her behaviors - words have come to mean very little to me over time. How a woman acts, holds herself, and behaves, and the routines she follows are far more telling than anything she can say. So I watched this like a hawk - mainly for consistency and congruence with what she claimed.

Another general approach was to try to determine her competencies - the knowledge, skills, and attitudes required to be a romantic partner. It is not as important that she know what to do about any given circumstance, but rather that she also have the skills and abilities to actually do them. How many of us have a friend who talks all day about a sport or some other interest - only to find out the person is really bad at actually DOING it.

And as I went down this list, I found that the few women I dated were basically incompetent. I do not intend this to come across as an insult; this is just a straight up evaluation, like one would do with a job candidate. because post-divorce, that's exactly how I viewed the dating process - like vetting for competence and agreeableness. After all, who wants to work with or for someone who is incompetent AND disagreeable? This is just common sense, and any pushback usually comes from women, who feel that relationships should not be viewed as a transaction. Besides, what gives a man the right to expect a woman to do ANYTHING for him. It is HE who should be vetted. And to that second point, I would say, I agree. Men should indeed be vetted in the same way.

We just may have found some common ground ladies!

Fast forward a few years after this list was developed, and, well, let's just say it wasn't going well. And I believe there are two main reasons for this.

1. My expectations were not that a woman be or do all of the things on my list, but it was hard not to notice when she was not or could not do a particular thing. That is unfair to any woman, but especially myself.

2. Women in the US are simply not raised to be good partners. They either learn OJT, or they don't develop in this way at all.

Either way, the list was not happening. All I could reasonably expect was to get "a bunch" of them. But what the hell does that even mean? Did I have a subset or priority items? Well, as it turns out I DID have a priority list. So I whittled it down. I will not keep repeating the list, but let's just say that it took about3-4 iterations of the list before I decided to come at it another way.

What is/are the bare minimum I should expect from a wife/life partner?
And once I looked at it from that angle, the list nearly disappeared.
It was not long thereafter that I realized that post-divorce, I either did that the things on that list, or outsourced it in some way. As it turned out, the outsourcing approach worked MUCH better than any other approach I have tried in the past, with the added benefit of removing the political aspects and resultant power struggles from the mix.
So, whether you have been through this before or not, a reasonable question would be, then what do you need a woman for?
As it turns out, not much at all.
This led to my ultimate conclusion: The only thing I cannot do for myself, or outsource, is intimacy.

I can cook, clean, sew, do laundry, and every single item on my wish list. Would it be nice to have someone to help? Yes. But it is no longer necessary. In fact, I have come to the point that I don't want a woman to touch or do anything in my house. I feel this way because too many times I have been confronted by household politics. These two words should be antithetical to each other; but feminism begs to differ.

And because I refuse to have household chores held against me, as a sort of bean counting ledger balance, this leaves one, and only one thing on the list.

And as I explain in my piece On Intimacy, this does not mean simply sex. Because I can outsource that too. So in order for me to maintain a romantic relationship with a woman, I require Intimacy = Trust + Respect + Sexual chemistry. Without this sort of intimacy, the relationship is merely a friendship - or something else.

So, as you make your way through the dating wastelands, you should consider my words and be on the lookout for Intimacy. You are not likely ever going to reliably get ANYTHING on this list, but in the short run and the long run, Intimacy is all that really matters.

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Outsourcing for Men: How to get sh!t done
Published 02/16/22 by deeplydisturbed [0 Comments]

Intro

Becoming a single father was not by choice. My ex-wife passed away very suddenly a few years ago, leaving me with sole custody of our three children.

Throughout my life I had heard how “being a single parent is sooo hard” and “I never have time for myself”, etc. so my expectations were less than optimistic.

But I quickly discovered that being a single father was not only not that difficult, but it was amazing!

One could write a book about this easily. And while there is a lot emotional content behind this statement, I will focus here on the non-emotional administration and logistics aspects – because that’s what most people seem to struggle with.


Disclaimer

Before I get started I must mention that I make an upper middle class living. I am not wealthy, but I am comfortable. It should also be noted that my children were out of diapers and could shower and dress by themselves when their mom died. These two factors cannot be ignored in my story, so I recognize that your mileage may vary with this advice.


The Advice

Some time after her passing, when my mind became a bit clearer again, I did a lot of soul searching and a lot of writing (which is very much not my usual habit). There were no journals or diaries, just thoughts on paper. This helped clear my head and organize my thoughts more than I expected it would, so I recommend it highly when if your brain is on fire as mine was at the time.

Among the big epiphanies for me was this: Of all the things a woman can bring to a relationship, the only thing I cannot outsource is sexual intimacy. (More on that in a separate post)

**Almost every other single thing that a man used to depend on a woman to provide, can now be outsourced.**

For example:

  1. A cleaning lady deep cleans the house once a week. It is less expensive than you think. When I come home on Monday after work, my house smells fresh, the toilets are clean, sheets changed, and kitchen sink is all shiny. I cannot overstate how amazing this is.
  2. About once a month I go to my local mall and get a back massage. The tables are all open and next to each other, (so inb4 "happy ending" comments). They also know me now and it makes a big difference, because there is that annoying spot between my shoulder blades that this old Asian women knows how to get to right away.
  3. There is a local laundry place that has wash and fold service. Best tradeoff ever! I despise folding laundry, and with four of us in the house, there is ALWAYS laundry. Also, if you dig into the cost-benefit, you will find that the amortized cost of your washing machine and dryer, plus any repairs, electricity, soap, bleach, fabric softener, water, HOT water, and in my town "sewer rent" (yeah, don't ask). It is only marginally more expensive to outsource this when you know the TOTAL cost of doing it alone - not to mention the time and effort.
  4. A few years ago, my daughter asked me once to come with here to get a mani-pedi. I said “Sure. Why not!” and so we went. The ladies in the nail place thought it was cute that a man who looks like me was there with his pre teen delighter. Men, trust me, we have been missing out all these years. When we go, I am always attended to by women. Plus, a good foot massage is always relaxing, especially when done by a moderately attractive younger women. Besides, let's be honest, what man takes the time to cut his own cuticles.
  5. There are a number of local restaurants within 5 blocks of my house. The woman who owns and runs my favorite place makes the best homemade Peruvian food ever. And it is dirt cheap! I have no idea how she does it, but it is not much more $$ than making it at home – and MUCH more delicious.

Update: As of the updating of this post, I now have a woman who visits 3 times a week to cook in my house. The takeout thing was getting super expensive, especially with inflation. So she comes three nights a week, and cooks 5-6 days worth of meals. It is CHEAP! This woman has old school values, and really takes pride in her cooking. I see here smiling when my children are digging into her latest creation.

In addition

      • I have a female barber
      • Most of my children’s teachers are women
      • My children’s doctor is a woman
      • My children’s dentist is a woman
      • Most of restaurant waitstaff is female
      • Most fast food places near me are almost entirely staffed by women

In other words...

Almost every single logistical family matter I can either do myself or outsource to a woman who really wants to do it!

I have watched many videos in which women claim that men want to live in the 1950's. Yet, I have never heard a man say this. They also claim that men want a woman who is submissive. Respect to Fresh and Fit, but I am not looking for subservience - I am perfectly happy to have a reasonable woman. She can do and be whatever, as long as it is within reason, and she is NOT combative or naggy or complaining too much. If this is somehow linked to the 1950's then I stand corrected.

Since women seem to see household chores as some sort of slavery (literally women's words) when they are done in the context of a marriage or domestic partnership, why do this to them?

Just outsource them to women who WANT to do them. Hell, they advertise it and ask for the work! Just treat them with kindness, show appreciation, and pay them slightly more than they ask. It works like a charm.

(I always wonder how many of these women go home, too tired to take care of their own men)

Not only is it much less expensive and quarrelsome than being married, these service providers often do their respective jobs better, more efficiently, and with more courtesy and appreciation than any female romantic partner ever has. While I will refrain from delving into the emotional aspects, it should be noted that

This outsource model is devoid of complex relationship dynamics, or inappropriate outdated feminist politics, which makes it all the more attractive.

In other words, I have effectively removed the politics from household chores.

On Gratuities

Each year, I give a few of my service providers an annual tip (Garbage men, mailman, barber, and a few others). Last year, when my housekeeper opened the envelop, she nearly broke my neck with a hug! It was such a spontaneous, endearing moment that I still smile when I think about it. She was genuinely appreciative – and believe me, while the bonus was generous, it was not over the top by any means. I am not wealthy by any means.

Can you imagine giving your wife a few hundred dollars - or anything for that matter - for being good to you? The average American woman would likely take offense and would look up the monetary value of any gift so that she could use it as a cudgel. \

We are an easy family to get along with, care for, and deal with. So when these women provide us with a service they seem to genuinely appreciate having us as customers.

This stands in stark contrast to many of our experiences with wives and co-parents. In romantic relationships, there is often little-to-no appreciation; on the contrary, there is too often strife, anger, resentment, passive-aggressiveness, or open hostility.

But here we are.

Conclusion

The TL;DR is: Maintaining a household should not be an ongoing political battle. So if you can afford to outsource something then OUTSOURCE IT!

__________________

PS

This post is ultimately about finding ways to fill the spaces left by the women in our lives. Men are not wrong to wish for a helpmeet, partner, wife, mother, housekeeper, co-parent or just someone to lend a helping hand. It is simply not reasonable to expect such things these days, as most women have completely rejected that role in today's society.

It is best for each of us to come to terms with this as soon as possible, and to start thinking about how to most efficiently get the mundane work done so we can spend more time being good fathers, make more money, build wealth, and to enjoy the finer things in life.

And let's be honest. This would not be possible without feminism. So shout out to feminism.



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