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Vermillion-Rx
2h ago  The Hub
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@Bozza

As per usual with your field report bangers, this would be a great TheRedPill forum post

No modifications needed. As is good, flaired Redpill example

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Vermillion-Rx
4h ago  RP Memes
Meme Lord Supreme

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polishknight
44m ago  The Hub

@Bozza I'm wondering if this is a good use-case for women friends. Not the "let's just be friends" women who are pity dumping you, but actual women friends who really have your back. I have plenty of women friends who are married, from childhood, cousins, etc. Bottom line is: If ANY pretty woman or authority figure is treating you with respect, the women follow.

Hobbies? "My older sister was into vinyl but she had strange tastes so she gave me her reject albums and those turned out to be the classics! After that, I got into collecting!"

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Bozza
4h ago  The Hub

Had a very interesting example the other day of the power of pre-selection.

Met up with some buddies and we went to this event. Bit like a beer festival I suppose. It's outside, there's music and lots of tables. Everyone drinks beer until late in the evening.

One of the guys I was with bumps into one of his friend and he brings us over to his table to join his group. I'm sat on the end of the table with a few other guys and two girls, both early 30's. I introduce myself and start making some conversation.

Very quickly, the girl sat next to me starts making conversation. what do you do, how do you know X etc. - the usual pleasantries.

As this goes on, it becomes very apparent that she is vetting me. She is doing what I would call "the job interview".

Lot's of questions all aimed at vetting me, my status, my frame etc. What's your job. Where do you live. What are you hobbies. What's your politics. What music do you like. With a few IoIs sprinkled in.

I hate women like this, and I always find it's the late 20s - 30s women who do this. As soon as she started I became disinterested. But it's still fun to wind them up and play upto the crowd.

A short while later this guy turns up, presumably someone that she knew. He pulls up a chair between me and her and they have a brief conversation. Her demeanour is one of complete apathy beyond social pleasantries. She goes back to interrogating me.

Some time later, a girl turns up. This girl is smoking hot. Mid twenties. She squats down next to him and they begin chatting for 5 - 10 minutes before she walks off.

Almost immediately interrogation girl turns her undivided attention towards this guy and her entire demeanour changes. Her apathy turns to flirty and playful. No interrogation at all.

Quite frankly, I was happy to get rid of her and go back to chilling with the main group. But for the next few hours (until I left) she was following him round like a puppy.

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Vermillion-Rx
2h ago  The Hub
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@Kloi

Yes, but there is meeting in the middle laterally (side to side) in which you are making lateral concessions – maybe you are just sacrificing some progress/resource/time to meet someone in the middle

And then there is meeting someone in the middle vertically - in which they are beneath you (morally, because they are being a piece of shit, manipulative, etc., and dealing with them is the lesser of evils)

And I'm saying that it's best to just take the L in a lot of cases than try to meet someone in the middle beneath you

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Bozza
2h ago  The Hub

@Vermillion-Rx Thought it might be a bit short for a forum post, but happy to share.

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SwarmShawarma
2h ago  The Hub

@Kloi someone gave me quite unique food\flavour, mastiha.

They ate it with me and they could taste it profoundly and were excited that I could try it too.

I could barely say the flavour existed, sort of yeah I think its different and tasty (base food was tasty on its own), but wasn't sure was it placebo effect.

I have never ate it and never developed the taste.

Bozza
23m ago TheRedPill Forum

Pre-Selection In The Wild

I watch. I observe. I experience. I write.


If you spend enough time paying attention to how people actually behave, the patterns become impossible to ignore.

Pre-selection is one of the most documented and least understood concepts in the space. Most guys hear it, nod along, and then go back to trying to craft the perfect opener. They treat it as trivia rather than the single most powerful signal of male value that exists.

The idea is simple - women are heavily influenced by the perceived desirability of a man to other women. If she sees that other women want you, something switches on that no amount of game, looks, or status can replicate on its own. It bypasses the logical vetting process entirely. You don't get interviewed. You get pursued.

The frustrating part is you can't fake it. Not really. You can manufacture surface level versions of it but women are finely tuned to detect the difference between a man who is genuinely desired and a man who is performing. The real thing is effortless. It just happens around you. And when it does, well.

Met up with some buddies the other day and we went to this event. Bit like a beer festival I suppose. Outside, music, lots of tables. Everyone drinks beer until late in the evening.

One of the guys bumps into a friend and brings us over to join his group. I end up on the end of the table with a few other guys and two girls, both early thirties.

I introduce myself and start making some conversation. Very quickly the girl sat next to me starts in on what I can only call the job interview. What's your job. Where do you live. What are your hobbies. What's your politics. What music do you like. All aimed at vetting me, my status, my frame. A few IoIs sprinkled in to keep me engaged, but make no mistake - I was being vetted.

She was a classic 30's woman. She wants a husband yesterday and any man she is attracted to must meet the criteria she has set in her head. There isn't time for fun and flirting. There is merely the robotic nature of a 30 year old spinster in HR conducting your job interview.

I hate women like this. It's always the late twenties to early thirties ones who operate this way. The moment I clocked it I became disinterested. Still fun to wind them up and play to the crowd, but the investment was gone.

A guy turned up at some point. Pulled a chair up between us, had a brief word with her. Complete apathy on her end beyond basic pleasantries. A minute later he was background noise and she was back to interrogating me.

Then a girl turned up.

Smoking hot. Mid twenties. She squatted down next to him and they chatted for five, maybe ten minutes. You could see her eyeing her down. She wasn't happy that a more youthful, beautiful woman had just captured the attention of every man on the table.

Then she walked off.

Almost immediately interrogation girl turned her full attention to this guy and her entire demeanour changed. The apathy was gone. Suddenly she was flirty and playful. No interrogation. No checklist. The answer had been demonstrated in front of her face and that was enough.

She followed him round like a puppy for the rest of the night.

Honestly I was glad to be rid of her. Went back to chilling with the main group and had a better evening for it. But if that isnt preselection there.

Young guys take note.


Takeaways

Pre-selection is real and it operates completely below conscious thought - She wasn't sitting there running the logic. A hotter, younger woman showed up, paid attention to a man she'd written off thirty seconds earlier, and something ancient took over. Millions of years of evolution crammed into one pathetic 180 degree pivot at a beer festival.

You cannot talk your way into pre-selection - Every clever answer you gave in the job interview evaporates the second another woman looks at a man like he's worth looking at. She doesn't want to be persuaded. She doesn't want your CV. She wants the answer demonstrated in front of her face. Words are for men she's already decided against.

The job interview is a trap and you're already losing by sitting in the chair - The second she opens with the checklist she's the judge and you're the defendant. But I still generated attraction. Not by answering well. By not giving a fuck. I didn't take her questions seriously. I wasn't invested in her approval. I was visibly indifferent to whether I passed or failed her little test. And that indifference, that complete absence of trying, is what kept her engaged far longer than any impressive answer would have. The less you care, the more they chase.

Indifference is the most attractive thing in the room - The guy did absolutely nothing. Didn't peacock. Didn't run lines. Didn't even try. He just existed, had a five minute conversation with a girl who found him genuinely compelling, and that was enough to turn a thirty year old HR drone into a lost puppy following him around all night. Effortless. Because it was real.

The clock is ticking and they know it - That anxiety radiating off the job interview women? That's a biological deadline. It makes them worse at attracting men while making them more frantic about finding one. A cruel design flaw. Not your problem.

High-value women don't interrogate - The ones worth your time make conversation feel like it costs nothing. The ones running the checklist are showing you exactly where they're at without realising it.

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Vermillion-Rx
1h ago  The Hub
Trillionaire Admin

@Bozza

Have you read @Whisper's posts?

Brevity is not a downside. A post only needs be sufficiently long to convey the necessary points

Whisper was a master of the shorter post

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Kloi
2h ago  The Hub
Scarf-wearing fruitbat

@Vermillion-Rx

It's the same universal principle applied along different avenues. How often do you really get to work/exchange/interact with any individual without giving something up in return.

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