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Lol. The people literally paid to be on that flight and help passengers, the flight attendants have retreated behind "We are here primarily for your safety!" I.e don't fucking bother me for anything else while I'm busy gossiping in the galley.
And she wants an actual passenger to help her out. Here's a pro tip: if you have trouble putting your carryon up, check it in. Pay the fifty bucks. Or if you're too cheap, bring it to the gate and 9/10 times they ask for volunteers to check their bags for free anyway. You got this gurl! Don't need no man flexing his biceps around you!
5h ago WhereAreAllTheGoodMen Forum
Why would someone want grapes anyway? They're so sour!
https://streamable.com/bmlv2h | Open Link in New WindowShe started arguing about small things, and then i would naturally get fed up around her because of this, causing her to get more upset.
Right. She's bickering because she's lost respect and/or attraction for you.
At times where i was trying to comfort her, i genuinely felt bad and acted pretty beta saying shit like “how can i prove x to you” and i think me saying shit like this killed attraction.
Don't do that shit. You can be supportive without supplication. You can support her without lowering your value and your options. You can be helpful without lowering yourself to cockroach level.
Never prove anything, and never offer to prove anything.
If she says "wahhhhhhhhhh you don't love me, I need you to prove blahhhhhhhhh"...... understand this for what it is: beta bait. "Be beta for me to stop me crying!"
Don't fall into that trap.
And really, if she needs comforting because of..... what..... err.... I mean, noone died, why can't she be fucking normal?
This is gonna sound gay as fuck but oh well.
During that time where we weren't official we were so attracted to each-other and i really did fall in love and she did too. Its pretty heartbreaking for this to happen and i do want to try and solve things
I think what happened is that you both fell for each other...... but when you "fell in love", you got all beta and this killed attraction.
I doubt it's salvageable honestly.
Read MoreOverall I think the dude here did okay, but I think there's room for improvement.
The worst position, which is where beta orbiters and NiceGuys live, is spending time, never asking openly for what you want.
The next best position, is to openly ask for what you want, no beating around the bush. That's what this guy did and at the very least, it keeps you from wasting time. But it's not always the most successful.
The best is to lead her down the primrose path through a series of escalations. Because the truth is, if you just abruptly ask someone "do you wanna fuck?" The answer is almost inevitably no. You want to rather ask questions that are easy yes. Kino, escalation, move to a more romantic place, ask her if she wants to take a walk. Invite her to come up to your place for a glass of wine. Talk on the couch, make her comfortable, then physically escalate. And so on.
At any of these steps, a woman may still say no. But on balance, this will yield a higher success rate.
Now, you have to decide beforehand how much time you want to dedicate to this escalation. In this case, apparently the guy was willing to spend the whole evening in pursuit. If that's his time and effort budget, then at least spend it wisely to maximize your chances.
To make an analogy. You get a match on tinder. You decide you're only going to spend 5 minutes of time on her. Then texting "wanna come over and fuck?" Might be fine.
But maybe you're willing to spend a few days texting. Then go for a more gradual escalation before popping the question.
Maybe you're willing to go on one date. Maybe 2. Maybe 3 (I personally don't recommend more than 3 without evidence of significant escalation if not sex by then). Whatever time you decide to spend, do it wisely.
What this guy did was essentially decided he was willing to spend a few hours of his time trying with this girl, but then spent that time essentially texting her "come over and fuck?" Every five minutes. He's likely going to fail and still waste the time. Why not choose a better strategy?
Read MoreYou've basically got it: alpha vs beta...... lover vs provider.
