And that's it. There are laughing emojis and shit that cannot be seen here.

Right. Could be flirty, could be friendly. You don't know. We don't know.

I laugh reacted to her PPE message and am not responding any more as after throwing the cute comment out there to show my intention she just glosses over it and keeps it civil,

That "cute" comment is about 1% intent.

so I jtook that as a lack of attraction or interest, but obviously reading this all back now is cringe as shit and I am acutely aware that my game could be miles better, even if she wasn't interested in me period, my game could at least be better. So where can I improve?

You think that "cute" registers with her as showing intent because you show so little intent.

From her point of view, this is what an interested guy does: "Oh my god you're so fucking sexy cute adorable! Look, let's get a drink or a meal or a drink and a meal, I'll pay, are you interested in maybe marriage someday? no rush, no pressure, but you're really hot and I like you a tonne, maybe can we go out sometime?"

Now that's fucking terrible, but it's easier for her to date than dropping "cute" and hoping she'll show some clarity, which she never will even if she likes you. Women do not display clarity or honesty - they just respond.

In terms of online game at least. Less emojis? Better negging or teasing? I'm sure there's a whole list. Believe it or not, I used to be good at this lol, but I accept my game might be zero now and am willing to relearn.

Shut up

My own answer: I have not done enough to work on inner game, and am not studious enough.

Ok, it's this simple:

• You can destroy attraction over text
• You cannot gain attraction over text
• Escalate to find out.

That's all there is to it. Say fuck all, invite her out for a drink.

If she wants your body, she'll accept the drink. If she wants to be friends, she'll accept the drink. If she doesn't want friendship or sex, she'll decline the drink.

If you want to know whether it's friends or sex, you find out over the drink, by trying to have sex with her.

This whole "text game" and "reading her signals" is a broken model from 1950 that didn't even work then.

The sense I got from this whole conversation is that you are her jester there to entertain her. I don’t think any one of the things you wrote by itself is truly cringe, but all together this looks like a guy trying to hard to jestermaxx for a woman, rather than attracting her.

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I know, talking about Black Pill is a no no here, but I’m doing it anyway. Jestermaxxing Is the act of trying to be as entertaining or engaging as possible to get girls. Jestering is often done by being funny, but can be done other ways (poetry, singing, showing off cool tricks).

Generally, it’s better to attract viscerally and with swagger, rather than jestermaxxing to get her interested. This is because jestermaxxing requires you to seek out her approval, not the other way. Mentally, you will be labeled a beta by her.

In your case OP, each individual line was actually pretty solid. The problem is that you dropped like 3 lines in an 8 text convo. You’ve put yourself in the trying-to-entertain-her position and given off thirsty, approval-seeking vibes.

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Also, don’t call her cute, especially on Insta. It’s not a creative compliment, and exactly the opposite of standing out on social media.

highly lucrative online industry

They got us, boys! Saddle up & ride for the hills!

misogyny should be treated by the government as a public health issue, in the same way as obesity

Clearly the government response to obesity has been really effective!

The manosphere offers boys and young men belonging, identity and an explanation for why life feels hard.

For whatever reason, the woman gets it right. Maybe if you didn't shame men for everything and kill off all their male spaces, we wouldn't have a need to create our own.

As the first minister for men and boys, I’m determined to... dismantle the manosphere

Considering your latest political project was visiting a phone booth, I'm sure you will have every success in this important endeavor! /salute

https://jakerichards.co.uk/2026/09/30/ulley-phone-box-upgrade/

Some cute girl who works like maybe 1 shift a week at the place my band rehearse. Only met her once as I had to go to the place on a day where we don't rehearse to collect some of my gear. While I was speaking to her in person I thought I was getting IOIs, but didn't catch her name or capitalise on it. See cute girl on Insta suggested friends who I thought was familiar a few weeks later, and sent her a DM. That's the backstory. This is the convo:

Me: I recognise you from somewhere...

Her: If I judge from the fact that we both follow (rehearsal space page)… do you rehearse there?

Me: Oh you're the girl that works there that damaged her hip haha. How's the hip Have you managed to damage anything else since?

Her: Oh yes it’s me! Haha. Nope not yet. oh well the hip is bruised but at least functioning

Me: So random that you would tell me that on my way out. I am a complete stranger to you. That name is interesting too. Is it pronounced Zoe or is it actually Zooooiiiii

Her: I know right?! I’m a weirdo sometimes haha. It’s Zoiiiii but you can just call me Zoe

Me: A cute weirdo though, which is normally a dangerous combo. Dangerous for you and your hip anyway. Zoiii then. Is that a Greek, or Martian name?

Her: Oh yes… I should be wearing PPE casually just as soon as I get out of bed. It is Greek indeed

And that's it. There are laughing emojis and shit that cannot be seen here. I laugh reacted to her PPE message and am not responding any more as after throwing the cute comment out there to show my intention she just glosses over it and keeps it civil, so I jtook that as a lack of attraction or interest, but obviously reading this all back now is cringe as shit and I am acutely aware that my game could be miles better, even if she wasn't interested in me period, my game could at least be better. So where can I improve? In terms of online game at least. Less emojis? Better negging or teasing? I'm sure there's a whole list. Believe it or not, I used to be good at this lol, but I accept my game might be zero now and am willing to relearn.

My own answer: I have not done enough to work on inner game, and am not studious enough.

After reading a left wing article that was linked on this site https://archive.ph/2LuGt#selection-1259.0-1259.132 about needing to keep men from the evils of the manosphere I felt moved to give a simple example of how valuable it is for men need to be allowed to view male female interactions from a male point of view -the red pill view. To this end, let me recount a phone conversation I had with my daughter last night. I just think that if the young men in this conversation had access to red pill thinking and understood how women think about men, they would not be wasting their time chasing women who consider themselves higher value.

My daughter called to talk about her training for the next few weeks, she is coming back from an injury. "I am just walking home (to her lodging) from the gym"

"Why were you there so late? You should prioritise eating and sleeping early"

"A friend got me a day pass to his expensive gym. I wanted to check it all out"

"Hmm... Who is this "friend""

"Brandon, he is on the college rugby team but don't worry Daddy its not like that. Boyfriend is cool with it. I took two of my friends too."

"So Brandon the "friend" covered 3 gym passes to the most expensive gym in the city?"

"Yeah. He is loaded. Nice Girl came into town to help me choose Boyfriend an anniversary present and Nice Guy tagged along to give a male perspective"

We talked about her day and how her friends were getting along. Nice girl is a nice sweet girl who turned out a bit hotter than everyone included herself expected. So she has had to learn to monkey branch fast as her value rose. Nice guy has orbited unsuccessfully since Kindergarten. He might be orbiting Nice girl now, who knows. I learned that Nice guy liked going to the gym with her because he has recently decided that a course of oral steroids will fix his Betaness and he wanted to show off bench pressing with Brandon.

"An oral only steroid cycle? No test base? I checked.

"Yeah, he is too much of a pussy for needles"

"Well that will really fix him, poor bugger and he is still in his teens... So tell me about Brandon, do you think he is a bit of a Chad?" (She knows all the Red pill language).

"Well he is rich, athletic, popular and confident but he is not tall enough to be a Chad."

She said it a simple cool matter of fact way. It was a way that only a girl who had turned down someone in a national sports squad last weekend, who was buying presents for a a long term boyfriend who is a national athletics record holder could. Brandon didn't cross her value threshold to be considered a Chad. Simple.

I suddenly felt rather sorry for Brandon with his 3 Gym passes. I am glad she wasn't going to cheat on her boyfriend. I like him and I don't want her to be a slut but its a pity guys just don't see simple realities. Girls get heaps of attention and offers. Its hard to flatly refuse gifts without being a hard cold bitch who comes over as thinking she is too good to talk to you. Gifts, attention and help are nice, so they accept them. They are happy to actually think of these guys as friends knowing they are attracted to them (because no one but a homosexual or a eunuch wouldn't be attracted to them). Guys just need to avoid wasting time and money or thinking that image, game and muscles will do anything but tweak the edges of true value.

Don't waste yourselves guys. Get the red pill.

Once again the answer lies in the first line of a Guardian article but they go on to give the wrong solution.

"Report calls for an effort to tackle harms in similar way to obesity and smoking, and stresses need to ‘offer boys something better’"

Yep, that's it. Men and boys need something better. You answered it. If men's issues were something that could be spoken of in mainstream circles and were cared about by governments, then there would not even be a need for a manosphere.

The answer is not "send them all to Cuck College for re-education"

The Guardian is right that some businesses do profit from the manosphere (and why not? but that is a different matter) but I have only ever engaged with people on an amateur basis. Whether they are authors or books, owners of platforms or regular guys like me, I talk to them all the same and I have never paid a penny for a book or for advice. I just want to talk about men's issues and I want men who need help to find a conversation going on that they can enter for free and where nothing is off limits to talk about. Its the sort of thing that I want there to exist in a civilised culture. That's why I am here.